All purpose news and politics thread part v: The quickening

[Username taken]

It's getting ugly here, isn't it? Let's get something straight. Bernie would not lead us down a path toward a Soviet style authoritarian government, and Biden is not as clueless as he seems at times. One of them is most likely going to be the nominee, so we better not whip ourselves into a Bernie or bust mentality or Biden or bust mentality that won't let us vote for the other guy. Don't let your ego keep you from doing the right thing come November.

God bless you for this.

[Steel Inquisitor]

I dont hate Bernie, I don't think he'll get anything done and is a tad divisive but this "He's a communist" thing is ridiculous and frankly a Republican scare tactic. Dudes a european left of centre politician. If he's a communist then so is Norway ffs.

Which is why it's puzzling when Sanders signal boosts Communist dictatorships rather than modern Norway. He shouldn't be doing this at any stage, especially during a debate. This is the material his opponents need to do Red Scare tactics on him and he gives them it on a silver platter.

[SquirrelMan]

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Public enemies. #ThanksBernard

[jetengine]

Which is why it's puzzling when Sanders signal boosts Communist dictatorships rather than modern Norway. He shouldn't be doing this at any stage, especially during a debate. This is the material his opponents need to do Red Scare tactics on him and he gives them it on a silver platter.

I'd presume its because Cuba is more in the average Americans mind then Norway, nods towards the actual communists/hardcore socialists whose votes he wants and trying to play up the positive aspects of Cuba over the negative (the very very negative) cause its startling how good their healthcare is compared to yours.

Or he's just incompetent. Never assume malice when stupidity will do

[SquirrelMan]

Evidently, Kamala Harris will endorse Biden.

Sanders is toast.

[jetengine]

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Public enemies. #ThanksBernard

Yeah...its not like Chuck D explained why he did it. Oh wait he did. And it had nothing to do with Bernie and more to do with Flav being an ass.

Again, this is weak sauce. Go after Bernie for something legitimate, not because some ******* rapper got into a tiff cause he didnt get paid

[numberthirty]

Yeah...its not like Chuck D explained why he did it. Oh wait he did. And it had nothing to do with Bernie and more to do with Flav being an ass.

Again, this is weak sauce. Go after Bernie for something legitimate, not because some ******* rapper got into a tiff cause he didnt get paid

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/m...anders-960272/

“Flavor Flav has been on suspension since 2016 when he was MIA from the Harry Belafonte benefit in Atlanta, Georgia,” reads a joint statement signed by members Chuck D, DJ Lord, Jahi, James Bomb and Pop Diesel. “That was the last straw for the group. He had previously missed numerous live gigs from Glastonbury to Canada, album recording sessions and photo shoots. He always chose to party over work.”

They continued, “Public Enemy Radio toured Europe and co-headlined with the Wu-Tang Clan in May 2019 without Flavor. “They have also done numerous benefit shows without Flavor … While Public Enemy Radio was moving forward, Flavor Flav was starring on the reality show Growing Up Hip-Hop New York, where an episode featured his children discussing an intervention and putting him into rehab … It’s time to move on and everyone wishes Flavor well.”

[SquirrelMan]

Yeah...its not like Chuck D explained why he did it. Oh wait he did. And it had nothing to do with Bernie and more to do with Flav being an ass.

Again, this is weak sauce. Go after Bernie for something legitimate, not because some ******* rapper got into a tiff cause he didnt get paid

Flav says Chuck is lying about his behavior.
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[jetengine]

Flav says Chuck is lying about his behavior.
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He's the injured party here so I'm not as liable to believe him frankly. And at the end of the day he's the one who started this. Just because he doesn't like Bernie doesn't mean he needs to get lawyers involved. We all dont like aspects of our job but put up with them.

[Steel Inquisitor]

Evidently, Kamala Harris will endorse Biden.

Sanders is toast.

Wish Warren was in that position for that endorsement, Harris was originally a natural ally for her in the primaries.

Edit: This means Biden will inherit Harris' juggernaut campaign resources she built earlier, this might be what he needs to win California.

[WestPhillyPunisher]

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Putin Calls For Russian Constitution To Define Marriage As Heterosexual

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Trump’s Fox News Feud Deepens As He Slams ‘Politically Correct’ Network

The president is not happy the conservative news network is giving airtime to Democratic candidates. It looks like this marriage is pretty much over. Aww, what a shame.

[Kieran_Frost]

Woahhhhhhh! Just looked at Elizabeth Warren's Twitter. Her latest post... dayum. I eventually stopped scrolling, because I couldn't find a non-Bernie Bro post telling her to drop out/endorse Sanders. Do people not understand telling someone to drop out has THE OPPOSITE effect? What possible motive would she have to help Sanders? Because his fans are being sooooo nice. She could get a major boost today. I just... don't understand what they think their nastiness will achieve?

That was clearly it. He specifically apologized and brought it up suggesting he was from another era and its time the youngsters who are ready step up.

No, you're not mistaken. It didn't help that he mistook candidate Jamie Harrison, whom he was interviewing at the time, with Senator Tim Scott, who was shown on a video.

Ah, thank-you both.

You were in an echo chamber. It got more popular once he left office. His entire term it was an albatross around his neck that polled negatively and the Republican Party ran against to gain a majority in Congress and an abundance of data backs this up. This doesn't meanit was a bad policy, it means they couldn't see it well.

Ah I see, thank-you

That's not the point. The point is that I like Sanders policies and I don't like Biden's. The counter I keep hearing is "well Sanders won't get much done anyways. There's zero evidence Biden would fare any better. And you have no really data to point to that makes it more likely.

Which is a perfectly fair attitude to take, and one I understand. I think people were objecting to your earlier post implying Sanders will get things done, when Biden wouldn't (citing the senate/congress as the reason Biden would fail). Being honest that they are both hampered but you'd rather have Sanders have a go is a very, VERY different story than "Biden will be hampered, Sanders will get things done". If that makes sense?

You'll notice that a lot of the Sanders campaign is about tearing others down -- especially Democrats -- as that's the only way they can assert their worth against popular "moderate" candidates like Obama and Clinton.

Looking at Warren's twitter... true...

Sanders isn't going to prosecute anyone any more than Biden will, that's not something he can decide on his own.

Agreed. There's a reality of office that does clip some wings, and you realise everything isn't as easy "I'll do this, I'll do that." I remember Obama saying he'd shut Guantanamo Bay the day he got into office, but the reality is once he was president, once the CIA (or whoever) came to him with all the illegally obtained confessions of the worst offenders, that cannot be used in court... he realised while the ideology is "that's wrong, we close them" how as the leader of a country do you let certain people back in, knowing what they could do/wanted to do/will do. I'm not saying you can't then say "no, let them go, this was wrong" 100%. But it's a lot harder to make that call when faced with it.

It's like pushing the nuclear button. All the UK leaders say they will (they have to, otherwise the threat holds no weight), but in reality... I'm willing to bet 90% of the Letters of Last Resort don't say retaliate.

[numberthirty]

Flav says Chuck is lying about his behavior.
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And Chuck thought to get Griff in on the lie going back a couple of years because Chuck is just that diabolical...

[jetengine]

It's like pushing the nuclear button. All the UK leaders say they will (they have to, otherwise the threat holds no weight), but in reality... I'm willing to bet 90% of the Letters of Last Resort don't say retaliate.

I actually agree with Corbyn regarding Nukes. Utter waste of time and money. Whomever fires at us is going to get obliterated anyway because no one lets rogue states exist, as an invasion deterrent our island status makes us reasonably safe and our enemies either dont have the fuel, political will or competency to actually invade. Also Trident leaves us tied to paying out constantly to the USA.

[Steel Inquisitor]

Woahhhhhhh! Just looked at Elizabeth Warren's Twitter. Her latest post... dayum. I eventually stopped scrolling, because I couldn't find a non-Bernie Bro post telling her to drop out/endorse Sanders. Do people not understand telling someone to drop out has THE OPPOSITE effect? What possible motive would she have to help Sanders? Because his fans are being sooooo nice. She could get a major boost today. I just... don't understand what they think their nastiness will achieve?

Yup.

Which is a perfectly fair attitude to take, and one I understand. I think people were objecting to your earlier post implying Sanders will get things done, when Biden wouldn't (citing the senate/congress as the reason Biden would fail). Being honest that they are both hampered but you'd rather have Sanders have a go is a very, VERY different story than "Biden will be hampered, Sanders will get things done". If that makes sense?

Exactly!

Agreed. There's a reality of office that does clip some wings, and you realise everything isn't as easy "I'll do this, I'll do that." I remember Obama saying he'd shut Guantanamo Bay the day he got into office, but the reality is once he was president, once the CIA (or whoever) came to him with all the illegally obtained confessions of the worst offenders, that cannot be used in court... he realised while the ideology is "that's wrong, we close them" how as the leader of a country do you let certain people back in, knowing what they could do/wanted to do/will do. I'm not saying you can't then say "no, let them go, this was wrong" 100%. But it's a lot harder to make that call when faced with it.

It's like pushing the nuclear button. All the UK leaders say they will (they have to, otherwise the threat holds no weight), but in reality... I'm willing to bet 90% of the Letters of Last Resort don't say retaliate.

Obama needed congress approval to close Guantanamo Bay and move the inmates to other prisons.

Btw, the October Revolution was when the Communists took over Russia. You got it!