All purpose news and politics thread part v: The quickening

[Tami]

But he won America Samoa!

Beating out Tulsi Gabbard who is a native of American Samoa.

[JackDaw]

Well...yeah. They vote in the general election because they're conditioned to believe that's the important one.

In UK even in the General Election (usually regarded as the most important) a smaller percentage of younger voters vote, compared to older voters.

In some ways...to be honest..I can personally relate to this.

In my younger days, I was in many ways much more interested in politics...took part in a fair few marches and rallies (especially those organised by Committee for Nuclear Disarmament)...but I wouldn’t have been that worried if I missed a vote.

Now..it really bothers me to miss a vote. Can’t really logically explain why...because I am deeply cynical about practically all modern day UK politicians.

[Jackmando7]

Do you guys think Biden picking Bloomberg as his VP would be a bad move? I have a couple of big time Sanders supporters as friends, and the basically said it would put off progressives even more if he went that route. But, his money would really help Bidens campaign, right?

[PwrdOn]

Do you guys think Biden picking Bloomberg as his VP would be a bad move? I have a couple of big time Sanders supporters as friends, and the basically said it would put off progressives even more if he went that route. But, his money would really help Bidens campaign, right?

Why do they have to make Bloomberg the VP to get his money? Didn't he promise to use his resources to support whoever the nominee was? Besides, the DNC already knows who they want, it's always been Stacey Abrams, it's just a matter of whether she has enough faith in this campaign to sign on or not.

[ed2962]

Do you guys think Biden picking Bloomberg as his VP would be a bad move? I have a couple of big time Sanders supporters as friends, and the basically said it would put off progressives even more if he went that route. But, his money would really help Bidens campaign, right?

It would be a horrible move. It won't just put off progressives, it'll put off a good chunk of minorities, women, and moderates as well.

[WestPhillyPunisher]

Have you seen that recent clip of Trump with his black supporters ( Diamond and Silk, Candace Owens, and a few others) where they call him the first black president?

More proof that The Tokens aren't just a musical act from the 1960's.

Do you guys think Biden picking Bloomberg as his VP would be a bad move? I have a couple of big time Sanders supporters as friends, and the basically said it would put off progressives even more if he went that route. But, his money would really help Bidens campaign, right?

Having two old dudes on the ticket would be a hideous idea on steroids. I for one would like to see a woman as VP, say Kamala Harris or Elizabeth Warren. My personal pipe dream would be Michelle Obama, if but for no other reason than that would make the heads of racists, right wingers and Faux News talking heads explode from coast to coast.

[PwrdOn]

Having two old dudes on the ticket would be a hideous idea on steroids. I for one would like to see a woman as VP, say Kamala Harris or Elizabeth Warren. My personal pipe dream would be Michelle Obama, if but for no other reason than that would make the heads of racists, right wingers and Faux News talking heads explode from coast to coast.

I think it'd be a bad move to pick anyone who was in the primary field, none of the women candidates particularly distinguished themselves and in fact a lot of supposed rising stars in the party tainted themselves by jumping the gun to run this year and came off looking much worse than they did going in. Stacey Abrams is the one prominent young Democratic woman who didn't do that, she's the ideal pick. Only problem is, she's smart enough to see the disaster that Biden is from a mile away and in all likelihood wants nothing to do with it. Now if we were to see a Bernie/Abrams ticket.....

[TheDarman]

Having two old dudes on the ticket would be a hideous idea on steroids. I for one would like to see a woman as VP, say Kamala Harris or Elizabeth Warren. My personal pipe dream would be Michelle Obama, if but for no other reason than that would make the heads of racists, right wingers and Faux News talking heads explode from coast to coast.

Agreed. It would be a terrible idea to not make some sort of outreach to the left wing of the party in a unification effort with the VP pick. I still think Hillary should've found someone like Warren to be her VP in 2016 and picking another moderate, left-of-center Democrat like Tim Kaine killed enthusiasm for the ticket on the left. Getting someone who has some progressive credentials like Warren or Harris would be great. I personally am hoping for Harris, who was my top pick for the nomination this year, because I think she also compliments Biden's subdued style and makes up for his, at times, ineffectual communication. Plus, I would love to see Harris go after Pence.

[Lord Falcon]

Do you guys think Biden picking Bloomberg as his VP would be a bad move? I have a couple of big time Sanders supporters as friends, and the basically said it would put off progressives even more if he went that route. But, his money would really help Bidens campaign, right?

I think it would be a horrible move. Bloomberg is not a Democrat but has little appeal to swing state Republicans. The guy is an out of touch billionaire who can't create a cult following like Trump and wanted to regulate soda cup sizes. Biden has plenty of appeal to the middle himself. He needs either Bernie or Warren as VP to bring together as strong a coalition as possible to bear on the election.

[Lord Falcon]

Agreed. It would be a terrible idea to not make some sort of outreach to the left wing of the party in a unification effort with the VP pick. I still think Hillary should've found someone like Warren to be her VP in 2016 and picking another moderate, left-of-center Democrat like Tim Kaine killed enthusiasm for the ticket on the left. Getting someone who has some progressive credentials like Warren or Harris would be great. I personally am hoping for Harris, who was my top pick for the nomination this year, because I think she also compliments Biden's subdued style and makes up for his, at times, ineffectual communication. Plus, I would love to see Harris go after Pence.

Harris is a moderate too, but she checks a lot of other boxes and, as you say, communicates well in ways Biden does not. She would also contrast nicely against Pence.

[TheDarman]

Harris is a moderate too, but she checks a lot of other boxes and, as you say, communicates well in ways Biden does not. She would also contrast nicely against Pence.

Her legislative record and platform seem to indicate that she was MUCH further to the left than Biden and roughly on par with Warren. But I don’t know. I might be applying the wrong measurement.

Plus, I really like that she sought to address problems with housing costs relative to what workers make. I mean, raising the minimum wage is a big deal and should be done, but that might also give landlords cause to believe they can raise the cost of living faster too. I liked her policy on that front and would love to have Harris spearhead initiatives like these through the White House.

[Billy Batson]

Biden/Harris

[Kirby101]

I have seen elsewhere that either a Biden or Bernie nomination will assure a Trump victory. the truth is nobody knows shit about what will happen.

[TheDarman]

Biden/Harris

I still contend Bush won his 2004 election because he could’ve walked on stage, said “I was president during 9/11”, and not done another campaign event and won.

[PwrdOn]

I have seen elsewhere that either a Biden or Bernie nomination will assure a Trump victory. the truth is nobody knows shit about what will happen.

It's not looking good either way. Biden is just a poor candidate, period. We're not running Generic Dem-Bot 20.20, we still have to put up an actual candidate, and the one that the party has decided on is just awful in every conceivable way. Bernie would probably lose too, because the party would only ever half-heartedly support him if he got the nomination.