All purpose news and politics thread part v: The quickening

[Kirby101]

I like them both, but am fine Biden will be the nominee. I think he will be good against Trump. Which is the first priority.

[ed2962]

Talking about climate change...things are getting animated!

[ed2962]

Here is the Cuba question...Sanders doing his best to explain his statement, but I don't think he can fix it in the mind of the public.

I think I missed the society security thing when my streaming froze?

[Kirby101]

Watching Biden, Trump must be peeing in his depends.

[ed2962]

Bernie had to admit, "We're doing great with young people, but they're not great voters."

[Powerboy]

I like them both, but am fine Biden will be the nominee. I think he will be good against Trump. Which is the first priority.

Yes it is which I find to be the only reason to support Biden, because he will be better than Trump. He offers nothing else. In fact, he offers to veto any National Health Care legislation, making him such a Neanderthal that JFK in 1962 was more progressive, fighting for National Health care.

Maybe something happened in the debate that. I hope so because he seems such an empty candidate compared to someone with a vision and the willingness to fight for it. If it's him or Trump, him, of course. But there's literally no other reason.

[Bruce Wayne]

Watching Biden, Trump must be peeing in his depends.

Debates don't seem to have much outcome in these elections. Trump pretty much lost all of them against Clinton and he still won.

[ed2962]

Watching Biden, Trump must be peeing in his depends.

I dunno. I think he was more afraid of running against Sanders. Sanders was able to go to the Fox News crowd and actually win a few of them over.

I think if Trump is nervous about Joe it's more in the sense of he knows Biden won't be intimidated by him while on stage.

[ed2962]

Debates don't seem to have much outcome in these elections. Trump pretty much lost all of them against Clinton and he still won.

He lost on substance, but won in terms of performance.

[TheDarman]

I dunno. I think he was more afraid of running against Sanders. Sanders was able to go to the Fox News crowd and actually win a few of them over.

I think if Trump is nervous about Joe it's more in the sense of he knows Biden won't be intimidated by him while on stage.

Trump has been pushing for Bernie to win and looking for some dirt on Biden...because he is more scared of Sanders? I don’t really get that.

I do think Trump might have underestimated Sanders, in the same way many of us underestimated a Trump, but I think it is clear Trump has been, and continues to be, more scared of Biden.

[Kirby101]

Yes it is which I find to be the only reason to support Biden, because he will be better than Trump. He offers nothing else. In fact, he offers to veto any National Health Care legislation, making him such a Neanderthal that JFK in 1962 was more progressive, fighting for National Health care.

Maybe something happened in the debate that. I hope so because he seems such an empty candidate compared to someone with a vision and the willingness to fight for it. If it's him or Trump, him, of course. But there's literally no other reason.

I guess you didn't watch the debate to think he offers nothing. Bernie is further Left of course, but to say he has no Progressive policies is just untrue.

[TheDarman]

He lost on substance, but won in terms of performance.

I disagree there too. The fact of the matter is, Trump looked bad in the debates, but a number of developments in late October made it much more important to the voters to look beyond debates. I mean, Clinton won the debates in polling by double-digits every time. We can criticize her and her campaign on a lot, but not her debate performance.

[XPac]

Watching Biden, Trump must be peeing in his depends.

I actually think for a variety of reasons, Trump would rather debate Biden than Bernie.

But I don't think he will necessarily sweat either. Trump won't necessarily need to out debate his opponents... he just needs to put on a show. Which is something he can do.

[Kirby101]

Debates don't seem to have much outcome in these elections. Trump pretty much lost all of them against Clinton and he still won.

She won by 3 million votes. Take out Russia, voter suppression and other issues that were not about people actually voting for her, and we wouldn't be in this mess.

[JCAll]

I disagree there too. The fact of the matter is, Trump looked bad in the debates, but a number of developments in late October made it much more important to the voters to look beyond debates. I mean, Clinton won the debates in polling by double-digits every time. We can criticize her and her campaign on a lot, but not her debate performance.

I remember how he would stand behind Clinton just sweating and sniffing. I knew at that moment we were all screwed.