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    This is... humane.

    The whole of the EU has started a major ventilator drive and will relocate resources to each member state as their situation peaks. They have generously decided to count the UK as a member state for this project
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    Quote Originally Posted by babyblob View Post
    An old man who most likely will not serve two terms can not in good reason have another old man who has had health scares in the past and who will not run after Biden as a running mate. If Sanders were younger I could say this might make sense. But Biden if he wins needs to look to the future of the party. Have as a vp someone who will run after him and groom them for that role. A woman as he said he will select makes perfect sense. An African American woman would be ideal. Whoever he picks needs to have a strong media and White House presence to get there name out ther for 2024. They need to be a very strong VP.
    I get that. You're not wrong, but the main goal here is to seize the government back from the GOP and we need all hands on deck to ensure it. It can't be left to chance while McConnell is actively trying to stack the courts with conseravtives for the next few decades.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulBullion View Post
    It's official now: Trump has not only destroyed all of the DJI gains during his presidency, but has also started destroying some of the wealth created under Obama.
    It's now at the November 2016 level. From before the US even knew who had won the electoral college vote.
    Good times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by babyblob View Post
    Things are crazy here as well. Our stores are bare and a man got stabbed at Kroger for trying to buy the last 4 pack of toilet paper.
    This toilet paper scare is the nuttiest thing. I mean, TP is not some rare commodity...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChadH View Post
    I would very much like to see a woman as the VP. I would've actually prefered to see one as the President. BUT.
    I think the smart move for Biden here is to offer the VP spot to Sanders. This would go a long way toward unifying the party in the face of 4 more years of Trump as well as securing the Senate.


    I stand ready to accept your critcism.
    Just not in the face please.
    That's just not going to happen. Although I see the logic in choosing someone more "progressive" it won't be Sanders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babyblob View Post
    An old man who most likely will not serve two terms can not in good reason have another old man who has had health scares in the past and who will not run after Biden as a running mate. If Sanders were younger I could say this might make sense. But Biden if he wins needs to look to the future of the party. Have as a vp someone who will run after him and groom them for that role. A woman as he said he will select makes perfect sense. An African American woman would be ideal. Whoever he picks needs to have a strong media and White House presence to get there name out ther for 2024. They need to be a very strong VP. I see Biden since it is clear he will get the Nom as the place holder President (If he Wins.) While the Dems groom the next big star.
    When Biden said he'd pick a black woman for VP, it reeks of a certain type of ( and I hate this word, but) pandering. Saying something like that is not really going to play to minorities in general per se or to the general electorate made up of independents and jaded voters, but it will play to a certain segment of the middle class democratic base.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ed2962 View Post
    That's just not going to happen. Although I see the logic in choosing someone more "progressive" it won't be Sanders.
    Yeah, if Biden were checking off boxes I'd guess he wants a SOMEWHAT progressive minority female (female part is of course already confirmed).

    And he probably wants someone with enough experience to really be hands on, because that person could be the president of the US 4 years from now or even sooner. Given Bidens age I suspect he wants someone who could literally take over the job from him on any given day.

    I'll be interesting to see who he chooses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ed2962 View Post
    When Biden said he'd pick a black woman for VP, it reeks of a certain type of ( and I hate this word, but) pandering. Saying something like that is not really going to play to minorities in general per se or to the general electorate made up of independents and jaded voters, but it will play to a certain segment of the middle class democratic base.
    Or, we can acknowledge that both Kamala Harris and Stacey Abrams would make amazing VPs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shooshoomanjoe View Post
    ****'s getting out of control here in Vegas. All casinos in Nevada are closed and the NV unemployment benefits is down because it can't handle the traffic. Roads hardly have any cars but grocery stores are packed. I understand the concern of a pandemic but I can't believe how fragile our society is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XPac View Post
    Yeah, if Biden were checking off boxes I'd guess he wants a SOMEWHAT progressive minority female (female part is of course already confirmed).

    And he probably wants someone with enough experience to really be hands on, because that person could be the president of the US 4 years from now or even sooner. Given Bidens age I suspect he wants someone who could literally take over the job from him on any given day.

    I'll be interesting to see who he chooses.
    I think he's looking for someone who'll help him win by expanding his appeal. I think at this point the whole experience thing as been proven to be not super important. He's looking for someone to balance the ticket as they say. It's no secret that that's why a lot of VP's are chosen, including Biden himself.

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    Sen. Martha McSally is likely doomed in her efforts to win an election in Arizona, and not just be a Senator because she was appointed to be one by Gov. Doug Ducey. Trailing in polls against Mark Kelly, she is looking to go on Fox News, make noise about COVID-19, and blame its spread on young, asymptomatic people putting the elderly (i.e., her voting block of support) at risk of infection.

    There's just one problem, she's a f***ing idiot, and blamed it on "asymmetric" people
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChadH View Post
    I would very much like to see a woman as the VP. I would've actually prefered to see one as the President. BUT.
    I think the smart move for Biden here is to offer the VP spot to Sanders. This would go a long way toward unifying the party in the face of 4 more years of Trump as well as securing the Senate.

    I stand ready to accept your critcism.
    Just not in the face please.
    The problem is Biden may indeed be just a one term president given his age and any potential VP is going to be an heir apparent as next president. Sanders is pretty much the same age wise to Biden so it's not a good option for choosing him potentially as the next president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by worstblogever View Post
    Or, we can acknowledge that both Kamala Harris and Stacey Abrams would make amazing VPs.
    Many of those same black people who voted for Biden do not like Harris.

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    Here's a good thread with an attached article.

    https://twitter.com/lizhackett/statu...108213249?s=21

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    Quote Originally Posted by ed2962 View Post
    This toilet paper scare is the nuttiest thing. I mean, TP is not some rare commodity...
    You mean it wasn't when Obama was president.

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