X-Men Week Day 6

[Silver Fang]

Bunn reflects on his time writing X-Men
http://www.adventuresinpoortaste.com...ing-the-x-men/


Naturally he mentions the heat he got for Emma's depiction. lol But notes he was just keeping with continuity after IvX.

Interesting he mentions getting questions on Cronet. I wish he'd answer them if so, because even though it's filler now, I'd like to hear where that would've gone. His Uncanny still has my attention more than any book since. Maybe Wave II will change that.

But Bunn also shares that HOX and Hickman was in place before he started Uncanny and that the books were filler.

So Hell, seems starting with Remender's AXIS almost, nothing mattered. Shame.

[Purplevit]

I like Bunn. I hope he will return to write X books soon.

[tuck frump]

It sounds like it was an ugly divorce.

[Mutant X]

Bunn had good ideas, but his execution is very disappointing.

[PsychoEFrost]

Sad he had to follow that character assassination from IvX through.

[spirit2011]

Nice view about the character Emma Frost.

Bunn did a good job on Blue most of times even with editors basically writing the book too. His generations Jean Grey was pretty good,glad it was him and not hopeless

Bunn: You know, it was a weird project. All of those projects were weird, especially Uncanny and Blue, because we had kind of been given marching orders that we couldn’t change anything with the X-Men. I mean, we were very limited with where we could go with the story because the plans for House of X–those were already in play when I first started writing Uncanny X-Men. We knew. It was like the worst-kept secret at Marvel. Like, “We got another plan.” Yeah, it’s Jonathan Hickman–everybody knows it! But that was in place when I took over Uncanny X-Men. To some degree, it was like placeholder stuff.

Wow. It wasn't just months of filler leading into the Hickman Era, it was years.

Yeah, I saw that and almost forgot.

So this thing has been going on for years, so I guess we were lied again and again.

[nx01a]

Bunn: You know, it was a weird project. All of those projects were weird, especially Uncanny and Blue, because we had kind of been given marching orders that we couldn’t change anything with the X-Men. I mean, we were very limited with where we could go with the story because the plans for House of X–those were already in play when I first started writing Uncanny X-Men. We knew. It was like the worst-kept secret at Marvel. Like, “We got another plan.” Yeah, it’s Jonathan Hickman–everybody knows it! But that was in place when I took over Uncanny X-Men. To some degree, it was like placeholder stuff.

Wow. It wasn't just months of filler leading into the Hickman Era, it was years.

[Omega Alpha]

Bunn: You know, it was a weird project. All of those projects were weird, especially Uncanny and Blue, because we had kind of been given marching orders that we couldn’t change anything with the X-Men. I mean, we were very limited with where we could go with the story because the plans for House of X–those were already in play when I first started writing Uncanny X-Men. We knew. It was like the worst-kept secret at Marvel. Like, “We got another plan.” Yeah, it’s Jonathan Hickman–everybody knows it! But that was in place when I took over Uncanny X-Men. To some degree, it was like placeholder stuff.

Wow. It wasn't just months of filler leading into the Hickman Era, it was years.

Yeah, except we know this isn't true. Hickman first talked with Dan Buckley in late 2017, and the first House of X script is date from February 11th, 2018.

[Silver Fang]

Bunn: You know, it was a weird project. All of those projects were weird, especially Uncanny and Blue, because we had kind of been given marching orders that we couldn’t change anything with the X-Men. I mean, we were very limited with where we could go with the story because the plans for House of X–those were already in play when I first started writing Uncanny X-Men. We knew. It was like the worst-kept secret at Marvel. Like, “We got another plan.” Yeah, it’s Jonathan Hickman–everybody knows it! But that was in place when I took over Uncanny X-Men. To some degree, it was like placeholder stuff.

Wow. It wasn't just months of filler leading into the Hickman Era, it was years.

And it's sad I enjoyed some of that filler more than canon.

Good Bunn confirmed it. Now we know why his stuff is ignored.

So anything that took place since ANAD & prior to Hickman is moot.

[Woozie]

http://www.adventuresinpoortaste.com...ing-the-x-men/

Pretty extensive stuff

AiPT!: Well, what I always enjoyed about X-Men Blue was how much story you packed into each issue. There were a lot of subplots running through that series.

Bunn: You know, it was a weird project. All of those projects were weird, especially Uncanny and Blue, because we had kind of been given marching orders that we couldn’t change anything with the X-Men. I mean, we were very limited with where we could go with the story because the plans for House of X–those were already in play when I first started writing Uncanny X-Men. We knew. It was like the worst-kept secret at Marvel. Like, “We got another plan.” Yeah, it’s Jonathan Hickman–everybody knows it! But that was in place when I took over Uncanny X-Men. To some degree, it was like placeholder stuff.

AiPT!: Before “Cross Time Capers,” when it seemed like the original five X-Men were from an alternate reality, X-Men Blue almost felt like an Exiles book, with the addition of “alternate” versions of Wolverine and Storm. What made you want to include Jimmy Hudson and vampire Ororo on the team?

Bunn: Well, I wanted to expand the team beyond the original five and I felt like in order to keep the right theme for the team, I needed characters who were out of place–who weren’t our versions of the characters. So that’s why Jimmy was an alternate Wolverine and Bloodstorm was an alternate Storm–not to mention Bloodstorm was a character I really like. So I wanted to put her in the book, and it’s interesting you say Exiles, because my intent was to end the series with them going back into the timestream. The original pitch, which was on the board for awhile, was it would then turn into a book called The Exiles and it would be that team doing what the Exiles used to do–lost in a reality stream. But alas, best laid plans.

[FluffyCyclopsRLZ]

This again? Someone seriously need to tell the guy that writers get screwed over by directors/editors/producers all. the. freakin'. time.

[Tycon]

This is already a thread.

[salarta]

It's useful to know that Hickman's plans affected writing as far back as Bunn's run on Uncanny X-Men. Fans of what's currently going on have said things to me ranging from "this has been in the works for years" to "this did not affect anything at all until the Uncanny X-Men event with Rosenberg." Now we have a timeline of at earliest January 2016, latest March 2017 on which to assess what Marvel's done with various characters and compare with recent activity from Hickman and Marvel.

I will say that I did look up quite a bit about Bunn's history when I was on board with what he might do. So I know he poured a lot of time and energy to get from work he made good money in but didn't enjoy to getting into comic book writing. If the company screwed him over, I'd say it's pretty fair to be upset after the effort put in.

[Triniking1234]

Wish we got Bunn's Exiles and not the other one where they abused Morph.

[spirit2011]

It's useful to know that Hickman's plans affected writing as far back as Bunn's run on Uncanny X-Men. Fans of what's currently going on have said things to me ranging from "this has been in the works for years" to "this did not affect anything at all until the Uncanny X-Men event with Rosenberg." Now we have a timeline of at earliest January 2016, latest March 2017 on which to assess what Marvel's done with various characters and compare with recent activity from Hickman and Marvel.

I will say that I did look up quite a bit about Bunn's history when I was on board with what he might do. So I know he poured a lot of time and energy to get from work he made good money in but didn't enjoy to getting into comic book writing. If the company screwed him over, I'd say it's pretty fair to be upset after the effort put in.

Seems like a combination of factors: marvel not wanting to invest on x-books while editors were waiting for marvel approve Hickman pitch.
So the whole books kept going stale for too long

I really remember Hickman going to a marvel retreat after secret wars was over.