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    Default Gotei 13 vs. UQ Holder

    The Shinigami of the Gotei 13 have been tasked by the Central 46 with taking out the immortals of UQ Holder for breaking the laws of nature with their mere existence (not a scenario, just a bit more fun than just writing "They fight in the arena").

    All fights take place in Karakura town, because that place can't get blown up enough.

    1. Yukihime vs. Genryusai Shigekuni Yamamoto

    2. Jinbei Shishido vs. Kenpachi Zaraki

    3. Sept Shichijuurou Nanao‎ vs. Shunsui Kyoraku

    4. Karin Yuuki vs. Gin Ichimaru

    5. Juuzou Shishimi vs. Byakuya Kuchiki

    6. Gengorou Makabe vs. Mayuri Kurotsuchi (Mayuri gets all the equipment he had during the final battle with the quincy)

    7. Touta Konoe vs. Sosuke Aizen

    8. Ikkuu Ameya vs. Renji Abarai

    9. Kuromaru Tokisaka vs. Toshiro Hitsugaya

    10. Santa Sasaki vs. Rukia Kuchiki

    Which side wins the most fights?

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    Oooofff...

    1. Yukihime vs. Genryusai Shigekuni Yamamoto

    Both broken as heck but I'm going with "I'm literally wearing the sun as armour right now," here. Yukihime is hard to keep down but Yamamoto has enough tricks in the bag to do it.

    2. Jinbei Shishido vs. Kenpachi Zaraki

    Jinbei is arguably the worst kind of matchup for Zaraki. A hyper technical fighter who specialises in area denial, gimmicks and frustration to win his fights.

    3. Sept Shichijuurou Nanao‎ vs. Shunsui Kyoraku

    Sept hasn't really done enough beyond be a light spirit of extremely high level. Shunsui can probably gimmick him out with his bullshit.

    4. Karin Yuuki vs. Gin Ichimaru

    I don't know what Gin can do to Karin. He's not Juuzo so he's not actually going to be able hurt her overmuch.

    5. Juuzou Shishimi vs. Byakuya Kuchiki

    Juzuo with bloodlust on is too much here. Man kills concepts and teleportation. Get out of town.

    6. Gengorou Makabe vs. Mayuri Kurotsuchi (Mayuri gets all the equipment he had during the final battle with the quincy)

    Hmmm... closest match so far. If Gengorou can finish it quickly, he'll win. Mayuri does better in the long game. It also kind of depends if Gengorou's multiple bodies can offset poisons and suchlike cleanly. I would presume yes.

    7. Touta Konoe vs. Sosuke Aizen

    Touta loses. Aizen is stupidly powerful and broken and Touta, for all his power, isn't nearly savvy enough to win against an enemy like Aizen.

    8. Ikkuu Ameya vs. Renji Abarai

    Renji cleans house real easy.

    9. Kuromaru Tokisaka vs. Toshiro Hitsugaya

    I'd back Hitsugaya here. Basic stats and abilities are pretty even. If the fight goes on long enough then Hitsu gets his empowered Bankai form and then Kuromaru is done.

    10. Santa Sasaki vs. Rukia Kuchiki

    This depends a lot on how we interpret soul reapers vs ghosts. Presumably, Rukia should just be able to freeze and seal him pretty easily.

    So overall...

    UQ Holder: 4(ish)

    Gotei 13: 6(ish)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nik Hasta View Post
    Oooofff...
    Yeah. It's a lot.

    Funnily enough the trickiest thing with this when the match up struck me was putting together the individual match ups.
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    1. Yukihime vs. Genryusai Shigekuni Yamamoto

    Both broken as heck but I'm going with "I'm literally wearing the sun as armour right now," here. Yukihime is hard to keep down but Yamamoto has enough tricks in the bag to do it.
    It is a bit difficult to use ice against a guy that nullifies ice over a massive area. He should also have access to some solid sealing kido as well.
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    2. Jinbei Shishido vs. Kenpachi Zaraki

    Jinbei is arguably the worst kind of matchup for Zaraki. A hyper technical fighter who specialises in area denial, gimmicks and frustration to win his fights.
    On the flip side, Kenpachi does strike me as way stronger so he wouldn't need much to turn Jinbei into paste, especially with his shikai and bankai.
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    3. Sept Shichijuurou Nanao‎ vs. Shunsui Kyoraku

    Sept hasn't really done enough beyond be a light spirit of extremely high level. Shunsui can probably gimmick him out with his bullshit.
    Bopping around a number of the main cast of his series is fairly impressive I'd say. Shunsui's bankai is killer though.
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    4. Karin Yuuki vs. Gin Ichimaru

    I don't know what Gin can do to Karin. He's not Juuzo so he's not actually going to be able hurt her overmuch.
    Someone had to face Karin and figuring out who could best deal with her invulnerability was difficult. Then I got amused by the idea of Gin pushing her from one end of the city to the other and her running back and then they rinse and repeat for way too long and get real frustrated.
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    5. Juuzou Shishimi vs. Byakuya Kuchiki

    Juzuo with bloodlust on is too much here. Man kills concepts and teleportation. Get out of town.
    My thought here was that Byakuya at least has a weapon that already breaks into thousand of tiny pieces so slicing it wouldn't do too much to it. Then there's a speed debate.
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    6. Gengorou Makabe vs. Mayuri Kurotsuchi (Mayuri gets all the equipment he had during the final battle with the quincy)

    Hmmm... closest match so far. If Gengorou can finish it quickly, he'll win. Mayuri does better in the long game. It also kind of depends if Gengorou's multiple bodies can offset poisons and suchlike cleanly. I would presume yes.
    Mayuri could alternately gas the place if he notices his poisons being undone. I wonder if Gengorou's invincibility frames protects him from that as well.
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    7. Touta Konoe vs. Sosuke Aizen

    Touta loses. Aizen is stupidly powerful and broken and Touta, for all his power, isn't nearly savvy enough to win against an enemy like Aizen.
    I may have overestimated Touta just a wee bit.
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    8. Ikkuu Ameya vs. Renji Abarai

    Renji cleans house real easy.
    It was either Renji or Komamura and I just prefer Renji over Komamura. So yay, Renji gets a win.
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    9. Kuromaru Tokisaka vs. Toshiro Hitsugaya

    I'd back Hitsugaya here. Basic stats and abilities are pretty even. If the fight goes on long enough then Hitsu gets his empowered Bankai form and then Kuromaru is done.
    Toshiro might be one of the better options against a fair number of the Numbers. Sealing them away in ice and all.
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    10. Santa Sasaki vs. Rukia Kuchiki

    This depends a lot on how we interpret soul reapers vs ghosts. Presumably, Rukia should just be able to freeze and seal him pretty easily.
    I would consider them close enough that they can interact with one another.
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    So overall...

    UQ Holder: 4(ish)

    Gotei 13: 6(ish)
    Again, there were lots of individual match ups I considered. These are probably not all the best ones. I might revisit this some day.

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    How resistant are Shinigami to mental shenanigans, again? Because I seem to remember Yukihime/Evangeline being able to just take the fight into a mindscape against Setsuna back when she was extremely limited in her ability to access her power in Negima, and I *think* that she's just plain mind whammied people with a [edit: glance] before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Drunkard Kid View Post
    How resistant are Shinigami to mental shenanigans, again? Because I seem to remember Yukihime/Evangeline being able to just take the fight into a mindscape against Setsuna back when she was extremely limited in her ability to access her power in Negima, and I *think* that she's just plain mind whammied people with a game before.
    Well, nobody could really defend against Aizen's illusions beyond grabbing his arm when he actually stabbed them. But I'm not sure that's the same thing as Yukihime's minscape. And Aizen also explained that with enough spiritual power you could just over-power esoteric effects (like his did against Soifon's two-shot kill move). But that isn't applied nearly enough to get a proper sense for it I'd say.

    So Yukihime going for a mindscape thing is plausible, though I don't remember her using it much in actual battles (she had Setsuna tied up before doing it), and I'm thinking Yamamoto might still be able to activate his sun armor before she tries it and that would possibly interfere as well.

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    [QUOTE=Dark Soul # 7;4644286]The Shinigami of the Gotei 13 have been tasked by the Central 46 with taking out the immortals of UQ Holder for breaking the laws of nature with their mere existence (not a scenario, just a bit more fun than just writing "They fight in the arena").

    All fights take place in Karakura town, because that place can't get blown up enough.
    Note: I made some arrangements to some of the match up for better fight

    1. Yukihime vs. Genryusai Shigekuni Yamamoto
    Both are powerful broken characters. But yukihime wins with her absolute zero Ice spell. Captain yamamoto has his bankai but She can also win with her magia erebea queen of ice mode where she freezes the area.
    Evangeline wins due to absolute zero

    2. (Jinbei Shishido) replace with Juuzou Shishimi vs. Kenpachi Zaraki
    I believe juuzou should be fighting kenpachi since both are fighting lunatics and have hax strength. In the end juuzou would definitely win that battle base on the fact he can cut
    Literally anything. Juuzou wins

    3. (Sept Shichijuurou Nanao) replace with Jinbei Shishido ‎ vs. Shunsui Kyoraku
    Both lazy fighters both very powerful and hax abilities. Hmm This one can be tricky, I believe either fighter can win this depends on which use their abilities seriously. Draw

    4. Karin Yuuki vs. Soifon replacing (Gin Ichimaru)
    Both are very skilled fighters and both have a crazy lesbian obsession lol it's possible for soifon to win this even with Karin op God bless body and holy powers as long she can bind her with kido since she very efficient with it.
    Soifon wins in my opinion

    5. (Juuzou) replace with Sept Shichijuurou Nanao vs. Byakuya Kuchiki
    Sept Shichijuurou Nanao light speed with high level healing definitely beat anything byakuya can attack with.
    Sept Shichijuurou Nanao Wins without a doubt

    6. Gengorou Makabe vs. Mayuri Kurotsuchi (Mayuri gets all the equipment he had during the final battle with the quincy)
    Mayuri Kurotsuchi wins

    7. Touta Konoe vs. Sosuke Aizen
    I don't get this match up. But either way Aizen wins very easy

    8. Ikkuu Ameya vs. Renji Abarai
    Don't really care for this fight. Don't know for this one

    9. (Kuromaru Tokisaka) replace with Nikitis Laps vs. Toshiro Hitsugaya
    Both are powerful but Nikitis is far more powerful than kid hitsugaya, but if hitsugaya manage to activate his adult form then I think it's gonna be a better match since adult hitsugaya would be able to freeze all of Nikitis attacks and stop them but Nikitis is powerful enough to also break through the ice. Nikitis wins against kid hitsugaya but it's a Draw against adult hitsugaya

    10. (Santa Sasaki) replace with Kuromaru Tokisaka vs. Rukia Kuchiki
    Hmm This might be very difficult for Kuromaru because of Rukia new absolute zero abilities. Their skills, speed, and techniques are pretty much equal. But Rukia wins

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    While I did say that there probably are better match ups than what I proposed here, I'd still prefer if you kept it to the ones in the first post.
    Last edited by Dark Soul # 7; 01-07-2020 at 03:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul # 7 View Post
    While I did say that there probably are better match ups than what I proposed here, I'd still prefer if you kept it to the ones in the first post.
    OK no problem I apologize for that. Just think juuzou vs kenpachi is a more pure swordsmanship fighting than who Kenny was Match up against but it's your post I agree. Uq holder team wins in my opinion

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