So...are the mutants of Krakoa taking mutant children from their families?

[Tofali]

Mutants are now responsible Cuckoo birds collecting their young wherever they emerge smh!

[Handsome men don't lose fights]

This! X Twitter is horrendous now! They all jump on your neck if you don’t believe the same thing as them!

To be fair, that's just twitter in general. Imply Uncle Ben should have had a concealed carry permit and see how far you get. Or if you really want to dry hump a spinning lawnmower blade, say Beyonce was terrible in the Lion King. (She was, damn. Woman can sing like an angel, doesn't mean she can act, know your mortal limits, Bey.)

[nandes]

Yes, they're also stealing our jobs and increasing drug trafficking through their Krakoan portals! #BuildTheWall #LockThemUp

[Killerbee911]

Yes, they're also stealing our jobs and increasing drug trafficking through their Krakoan portals! #BuildTheWall #LockThemUp

Just being a devil advocate aren't the Mutants ones building up a wall and running calling themselves "superior" "new gods" "the true inheritors of the earth".

[powerpax]

And this bile will continue to exist until Marvel and X-Men destroy each other to nothing in the comics, by which point the hate on both sides of the fandom will be completely vomited out, as they await the reboot that will reintroduce the new needed nuances in human opinion to avoid the despicable blanket demonizations that plagued the grimdark age, now that the irreparably uniformly genocidal sapiens of the old continuity have been slaughtered by the mutants with the X-Men as the tip of their vengeful spear.

While X-fans lord over the Krakoan restraint that is the "kill no human" law as a proof of the mutant high ground, deep deep deep down you do want to see the X-Men leading all the mutants in the world in a war of genocide against the unredeemable, unfixable, one-dimensional Marvel humanity and watch frame after frame of graphic visceral blood-and-guts mass manslaughter of the sapiens that have long outlived their relevance in the setting. You hate Marvel humans; hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them HATE THEM HATE THEM HATE THEM HATE THEM HATE THEM HATE THEM HATE THEM HATE THEM HATE THEM HATE THEM HATE THEM HATE THEM . Cynically I wish that were the case too. The human-mutant mutual viewpoint has been permanently destroyed and the only solution left is to kill everyone and destroy everything to build a new and possibly balance continuity.

You realize these are just funny books, right? It’s not that serious.

People can have healthy debate about the ideological stance of these fictional comic books without you turning it into aggrieved grand opera. Why you find it so insidious and dangerous that fans - especially those who are racial or sexual minorities - appreciate the aim of House of X’s more proactive or even radical stance, particularly given the (again, fictional) choices of the in-comic Marvel human race to keep building minority-hunting killer robots is beyond me.

You’re elevating this to some primal moral struggle. It’s just comics. But the fact that you take it ludicrously seriously and are deeply outraged that any fans could say “yeah, humans are pretty shitty to these minorities in these made-up comics” says more about your own hangups than about anyone here or these comics.

[jwatson]

And this bile will continue to exist until Marvel and X-Men destroy each other to nothing in the comics, by which point the hate on both sides of the fandom will be completely vomited out, as they await the reboot that will reintroduce the new needed nuances in human opinion to avoid the despicable blanket demonizations that plagued the grimdark age, now that the irreparably uniformly genocidal sapiens of the old continuity have been slaughtered by the mutants with the X-Men as the tip of their vengeful spear.

While X-fans lord over the Krakoan restraint that is the "kill no human" law as a proof of the mutant high ground, deep deep deep down you do want to see the X-Men leading all the mutants in the world in a war of genocide against the unredeemable, unfixable, one-dimensional Marvel humanity and watch frame after frame of graphic visceral blood-and-guts mass manslaughter of the sapiens that have long outlived their relevance in the setting. You hate Marvel humans; hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them HATE THEM HATE THEM HATE THEM HATE THEM HATE THEM HATE THEM HATE THEM HATE THEM HATE THEM HATE THEM HATE THEM HATE THEM . Cynically I wish that were the case too. The human-mutant mutual viewpoint has been permanently destroyed and the only solution left is to kill everyone and destroy everything to build a new and possibly balance continuity.

Are you okay? All jokes aside this is fiction but this post just has so many warning signs. Maybe you need a break. Or read fearless that had mutants and humands and repowered mutants coming together. What is stopping the other books from pulling mutants in for stories to change the narrative themselves. I don't see all these rants on the main marvel thread asking why they don't use a few panels in their own books to show that side

[jwatson]

Double post so...

I can't remember one modern story where earth mighest heros helped mutant kind in general. They are inhabitants of earth. That's on their writers.

[MarvelMaster616]

No they don't. They're taking mutants in who want to go and live in Krakoa.

I agree. That seemed to be the main takeaway from Marauders. Nobody is forcing mutants to come live on Krakoa. Even in House of X #1, Cyclops just extended the offer to Franklin Richards of the Fantastic Four. He didn't kidnap him, nor did he threaten to. He simply said that mutants have a home that they can go to whenever they please.

And if the events of Marauders #1 is any indication, there are plenty of people trying to keep mutants from leaving, even though they want to.

[Frobisher]

If so that could cause some problems with regards to kidnapping and international trafficking.

Obvious pro human concern troll is obvious.

[AHRNIHAL]

Obvious pro human concern troll is obvious.

If people still think hate and fear towards mutants doesn't make sense in marvel. This is the proof.

[jwatson]

If people still think hate and fear towards mutants doesn't make sense in marvel. This is the proof.

And for some reason it's always on the other. The avenger line had no problem pulling in mutants for a vs. x to fight them but the editors and writers over there who are controlling the non mutant characters don't even take the time in their own books to show their own heros helping the other. If the issue is really how humans are viewed in general in the mu why aren't they on the main marvel board or sending letters to the writers of those titles campaigning for them to use two panels, just two panels to show they care or want to help ALL of Earth's inhabitants. But instead we don't hear jack. It makes the whole thing seem ingenuine. They want the books with mutants to focus on good humans but don't even have that expectation of the books with said humans in it. Spiderman writers didn't seem to have a problem showing he cares about mutants on several occasions.

[Desmark]

Some posters are taking this too seriously. Relax people, ultimately it's just a story.

[Zelena]

And this bile will continue to exist until Marvel and X-Men destroy each other to nothing in the comics, by which point the hate on both sides of the fandom will be completely vomited out, as they await the reboot that will reintroduce the new needed nuances in human opinion to avoid the despicable blanket demonizations that plagued the grimdark age, now that the irreparably uniformly genocidal sapiens of the old continuity have been slaughtered by the mutants with the X-Men as the tip of their vengeful spear.

While X-fans lord over the Krakoan restraint that is the "kill no human" law as a proof of the mutant high ground, deep deep deep down you do want to see the X-Men leading all the mutants in the world in a war of genocide against the unredeemable, unfixable, one-dimensional Marvel humanity and watch frame after frame of graphic visceral blood-and-guts mass manslaughter of the sapiens that have long outlived their relevance in the setting. You hate Marvel humans; hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them hate them HATE THEM HATE THEM HATE THEM HATE THEM HATE THEM HATE THEM HATE THEM HATE THEM HATE THEM HATE THEM HATE THEM HATE THEM . Cynically I wish that were the case too. The human-mutant mutual viewpoint has been permanently destroyed and the only solution left is to kill everyone and destroy everything to build a new and possibly balance continuity.

What I find disturbing is this willingness among X-men writers to show more confrontations than cooperations. There are no more humanists in this lot. I'm too much a Claremont girl to be not saddened by this.
Otherwise, I saw no examples of mutants of Krakoa taking mutant children from their families. Just proselytism.

[Triniking1234]

The kids with Jean had the student outfit so there's probably an outreach protocol for minors.

Also other children are probably offspring of the NPC residents or rescued kids like in X-Men #1.

Some posters are taking this too seriously. Relax people, ultimately it's just a story.

Most of the X-forums are either paranoid or horny.

[chief12d]

And for some reason it's always on the other. The avenger line had no problem pulling in mutants for a vs. x to fight them but the editors and writers over there who are controlling the non mutant characters don't even take the time in their own books to show their own heros helping the other. If the issue is really how humans are viewed in general in the mu why aren't they on the main marvel board or sending letters to the writers of those titles campaigning for them to use two panels, just two panels to show they care or want to help ALL of Earth's inhabitants. But instead we don't hear jack. It makes the whole thing seem ingenuine. They want the books with mutants to focus on good humans but don't even have that expectation of the books with said humans in it. Spiderman writers didn't seem to have a problem showing he cares about mutants on several occasions.

I posted something similar a few days back, but most solo Avengers have stories or crossovers with the X-Men that highlight their opposition to anti-mutant racism. So the idea that the mainstream MU ignores the mutant narrative outright or is actively anti-mutant is a stretch. Now X-fans can be mad that they aren’t seeing the mutant struggle enough in other books, but that’s a separate complaint from the Avengers being oblivious to their problems. And even then I still put the onus on the X-office to display good humans (not “focus” on them). Whether or not Iron man was punching out Purifiers the last decade didn’t affect the fact that the X-office wrote itself into a corner with an over saturation of human racism. The insane levels of vitriol toward mutants in the X-books is what needs to be addressed, not how frequently non X-books choose to prove that their heroes aren’t anti-mutant.