While I'm pro-choice I believe your statement is an oversimplification of a complex matter. Some people are pro-life because of their background (usually cultural or religious) or because of how they frame certain philosophical questions. It doesn't always mean they are bad people or hold malice towards women in general.
Last edited by Celgress; 10-28-2019 at 10:24 PM.
"So you've come to the end now alive but dead inside."
It often appears that way from the outside looking in, when the people against abortion are also against pretty much any form of birth control or effective sex education (abstinence only sex ed doesn't appear to work), and while claiming that 'life begins at conception' won't do anything for fertilized eggs at clinics (which count as conceived) because 'nobody is pregnant in those cases.'
Many of the people in the rank and file believe what they are saying, but I am unable to offer that benefit of the doubt to the higher ups in the movement due to their opposition to anything else which reduces unwanted pregnancies - which would also do a lot to reduce abortions.
Dark does not mean deep.
True, I'll never understand the whole anti-contraception thing. I can understand (although not approve) of a pro-life stance in some cases but not this garbage. The late Pope John Paul II was a big proponent of such a stance during a time when HIV was untreatable and running rampant in Africa. Because of his teachings, many children were born into short lives of utter misery. I can't see how any loving god or gods would approve of his actions due to their terrible consequences yet he is being made a saint. *shakes head*.
Last edited by Celgress; 10-28-2019 at 10:52 PM.
"So you've come to the end now alive but dead inside."
Even dumber is how the church accelerated the process despite John Paul II insisting that never be done even for those who the public considered savings in life, on the grounds it would cheapen canonization. If alive, he might be the biggest opponent of making himself a saint.
Dark does not mean deep.
Pro life is making a rape victim carry her rapists child to term.
That's a bit harsh.
I'm sure that there are people like that, but I also don't doubt that there are people who simply believe that life begins before birth and that you shouldn't kill. Taking it quite as early as conception is insane, but there is a point where the discussion becomes greyer and doesn't require you to be a moustache twirling villain.
And besides, it's simply less true than conservative partisans would like to assume, as a relatively recent MIT study points out:
A presumption of this giving being driven by a conservative ideological preference for their 'local communities to solve problems' seems to be wishful thinking, anyhow.Voluntary contributions from individuals are the lifeblood of nonprofit organizations, which in turn fund a large portion of social services in the United States. Given this reliance donor generosity, it is important to understand who contributes, and to where. In this paper, we argue against the conventional wisdom that political conservatives are inherently more generous toward private charities than liberals. At the individual level, the large bivariate relationship between giving and conservatism vanishes after adjusting for differences in income and religiosity. At the state level, we find no evidence of a relationship between charitable giving and Republican presidential voteshare. Finally, we show that any remaining differences in giving are an artifact of Republicans' greater propensity to give to religious causes, particularly their own church. Taken together, our results counter the notion that political conservatives compensate for their opposition to governmental intervention by supporting private charities.
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers....act_id=2148033
And all this to with saying nothing of whether or not any of these religious congregations actually spend a substantial amount of the donations they receive on anything other than their own expenses or, you know, building a new megachurch or their pastor's private plane.
Last edited by Tendrin; 10-29-2019 at 08:19 AM.
"So you've come to the end now alive but dead inside."
Are we making a distinction between conservative and republican?
For some reason I want to say Capt Atom, but I'm not 100% sure on that one.