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Last edited by stargazer01; 11-08-2020 at 11:13 PM.
The S stands for SJW. Superman has always been an SJW and always will be, that's why he's so fantastic. The first Superman comic, he fought domestic abusers, corrupt politicians, slum landlords. Superman is a refugee immigrant who comes to America and uses his immense power - as both a hero and a journalist - to help the weak. He is the very definition of a social justice warrior and the takes that run from that are the ones that fail the hardest.
Setting aside it's a Superman show, it's a show set in a deteriorating small midwest American town, dealing with job losses, drugs and drinking, and a major corporation and corporate big wig is moving in to take over for their own nefarious means. Lana's husband is set up as a soft-MAGA type. What about that set up screams "subtlety" or "apolitical" to you exactly?
Bottom line, I know the world sucks. That's why I'm watching Arrowverse shows and sports. I want at an hour away from the madness. The last thing I need is another pukefest show like Supergirl. Who are the shippers shipping this week lol. Boring melodrama, with a touch of politics. Let's have Martian Manhunter ban guns at the DEO lol. Will Brainy fall in love lol? Horrible stuff. So if this writer is trying to turn S&L into that, nope, she gotta go.
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I would love for you to explain in detail how asking that the only Black people on screen aren’t portrayed as villains and asking that the woman who’s NAME IS IN THE TITLE OF THE SHOW is treated like an equal and not a sexist afterthought is a “pukefest.”
Like please elaborate for us on how treating Black people and women like equals is somehow antithetical to SUPERMAN. Go ahead. Because those seem like pretty simple requests to me.
It sounds much more likely that she simply asked that Lois Lane be treated as an equal given her name is in the title of the series and that she balked at the blatantly sexist agenda of putting Lois and Lana against each other that has had literally everyone concerned from the minute Lana was announced.
And she was absolutely right to do so because no one has time for that kind of crap in 2020.
THe things she is saying are pretty bad, if they true.
I still believe the right thing for us to do, is wait until the show come out and judge on our own. Maybe when we watch it won't have any of the problems she is saying it have, maybe it will have. We don't know, and we should wait.
It's good to want more substance than say "Superman punches bad guy into the sun and smirks to the camera." I want more than that too. And what the writer is complaining about wanting good representation of women and poc, is a perfectly reasonable and if that is behind why she lost her job, then I have a serious problem with that,.... but on the flip side of this is that execution and not being too heavy handed is important too. Like pretty sure the guy in charge of this show was the showrunner for Flash when they had that terrible bachelor/femenism party episode (besides the drunk Barry bits), which was just cringe. I'd hope the guy's learned to tone that stuff down since then.
anyway here's some daily planet stuff
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For starters, Lois name is in the title. The way the actress is promoting the show on Twitter, I doubt her character is getting short shrift.
2. She's complaining about a black Lex Luthor from another earth. Ever came to consider if there is a black Lex , then somewhere there is a black Superman(Val Zod?) somewhere out there? Come on think. Use your imagination. This show has potential to become the flagship show on CW. Let's see what happens.
I do think the complaints are legit but I'm also very much aware how leaning heavily on sjw can work against a show, despite meaning well. A happy middle, if there's such a thing wouldn't be a terrible thing but it would need to be well written regardless. I am going to wait and see for myself, at this stage, hope for the best and trying not to expect the worst. I want this show to be a success, good success on all fronts.