Thoughts on the current run?

[BitParallel]

I’ve been observing this board and boy oh boy so many X-fans aren’t on board with Hickmans vision (and that’s alright, no judgement).

1. I’ve seen some mad about the poly relationship direction.
2. I’ve seen some mad about characters acting OOC.
3. I’ve seen some mad about their fav characters not getting enough panel time.
4. I’ve seen some mad about the X-men acting like superamcists.

Not everyone is enjoying the ride like I’ve been led to believe. I, for one, is enjoying this run immensely, it’s been a minute since I’ve read a good X-book.

I do think the Xmen are acting cultish but they’ve been cultish this past decade so nothing new. They been acting a lil on the crazy side but I like them as morally grey folks.

So what is your main issue with the current run?

[loke13]

I don't really have any so maybe this thread isn't for me but I think this is the most provocative and exciting that the X-Men have been in a LONG LONG time. The franchise feels like it's got new life breathed into by Hickman and various writers/artist and after the almost decade long stagnation the titles suffered, well if it comes at the cost of a few characters acting "OOC" I'll gladly take it. And the main reason for that is that I have faith it's all leading into something epic for the X-Men franchise for years to come.

[Silver Fang]

So far, I am largely indifferent. But again, I DO NOT put that on Hickman. I always had taste that was sadly drawn to things that were in the minority. So outside of sitcoms, when it comes to a franchise, I am a person who was usually only interested in certain characters that caught my eye. And sadly when you are a fav. character person, you're gonna be indifferent or frustrated a lot. lol

Now getting to Hix-Men, same thing. I have 3 actual favs. Two of them, imo, have been written in ways I can not & do not enjoy. So they're out. Sadly I have to avoid them. Which is easy for one because Hickman put them to sleep. lol I only have 1 left, and they're not really a focal point now, & are the only one of Hickman's top 5 to be getting so little focus.

So for now, I keep up with events via forum & review and some things sound nice & interesting, but it's nothing that is genuinely getting me excited.

[The Kid]

Honestly as someone who has been on the this forum since like 2012, this is probably the most well-received a run has ever been. In the past, even other critically acclaimed runs seemed to have split views among the readers here. I always said that only the Wonder Woman was more critical than the X-boards.

But this run has been really popular and liked! There's obviously people who don't care for it or the direction but in terms of sheer number, it's probably the most positive I've ever seen this board

[AbnormallyNormal]

I was and am still mostly confused about the run more than anything. I want to understand what's really going on and what the purpose is. It felt strongly like an AU to me at first and to a degree it still does.

I also don't care for all the bashing about "the last 10+ years" of X-comics, there's been tons of great work done... people bashing all of it just sound like they haven't been reading to be honest. Which is fine but then just admit this is a new run that got promoted so you're checking it out, no need to generally attack all other runs for years and years... just a pet peeve!

There are parts of what's going on that are interesting to me and there are parts that seem like they wildly contradict tons of established continuity (hence the AU sense). I do appreciate all the debates and everything it's given fans and I'm pleasantly surprised as many fans are pro Krakoa as there are. I didn't expect that.

[BitParallel]

I was and am still mostly confused about the run more than anything. I want to understand what's really going on and what the purpose is. It felt strongly like an AU to me at first and to a degree it still does.

I also don't care for all the bashing about "the last 10+ years" of X-comics, there's been tons of great work done... people bashing all of it just sound like they haven't been reading to be honest. Which is fine but then just admit this is a new run that got promoted so you're checking it out, no need to generally attack all other runs for years and years... just a pet peeve!

There are parts of what's going on that are interesting to me and there are parts that seem like they wildly contradict tons of established continuity (hence the AU sense). I do appreciate all the debates and everything it's given fans and I'm pleasantly surprised as many fans are pro Krakoa as there are. I didn't expect that.

I wasn’t bashing X-books, most of marvel comics hasn’t been that great not just x-books. All I’m sayin, Xmen acting cultish isn’t something new. Utopia was cultish too.

I am also shocked that many folks are pro Krakoa. Yikes. As a human, I’m offended by the betrayal of my fellow humans.

[Londo Bellian]

I wasn’t bashing X-books, most of marvel comics hasn’t been that great not just x-books. All I’m sayin, Xmen acting cultish isn’t something new. Utopia was cultish too.

I am also shocked that many folks are pro Krakoa. Yikes. As a human, I’m offended by the betrayal of my fellow humans.

We'll be reminded that ultimately this is a work of fiction, though Hickman has managed to make the characters seem like living people.

[Domino_Dare-Doll]

I was and am still mostly confused about the run more than anything. I want to understand what's really going on and what the purpose is. It felt strongly like an AU to me at first and to a degree it still does.

I also don't care for all the bashing about "the last 10+ years" of X-comics, there's been tons of great work done... people bashing all of it just sound like they haven't been reading to be honest. Which is fine but then just admit this is a new run that got promoted so you're checking it out, no need to generally attack all other runs for years and years... just a pet peeve!

There are parts of what's going on that are interesting to me and there are parts that seem like they wildly contradict tons of established continuity (hence the AU sense). I do appreciate all the debates and everything it's given fans and I'm pleasantly surprised as many fans are pro Krakoa as there are. I didn't expect that.

Can I just say that, as someone who was enjoying some of the recent stuff immensely, I really appreciate hearing that.

[Omega Alpha]

It’s amazing how many people dislike reading stories.

(Too many) people project themselves in their favorite characters and the whole thing becomes about them.

I've mostly enjoyed peoples subtle prejudices being revealed by their horror at the mutants finally not taking any more ****.

Oh, yes. Minorities have the right to ask for acceptance, but only if they are polite, well-mannered and accept the decisions of the majority.

I also don't care for all the bashing about "the last 10+ years" of X-comics, there's been tons of great work done... people bashing all of it just sound like they haven't been reading to be honest. Which is fine but then just admit this is a new run that got promoted so you're checking it out, no need to generally attack all other runs for years and years... just a pet peeve!
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Hickman never said there wasn't good stuff done in the last 10 years- for example, he expressed many times how much he loves Gillen's run. However, the franchise has been broken for a long time, and it's really impossible to say otherwise. Morrison was brought him exactly for that reason, he pushed the X-men into a new direction and then editorial threw a nuke at the whole thing.

The fact is that the franchise was directionless because it was put in a corner- Extinction + Nostalgia, over and over again. There hasn't been forward movement.

Also, as he said in the recent podcast, X-men is not about themes that can stay the same for a long time, like "With great powers, come great responsability". It needs to change to reflect the struggles of minorities in the present day.

And the fact that even after the story is over, people keep expecting the X-men to be revealed to be the bad guys is a very good indicative how the franchise was broken- the X-men have been painted far too long as the evil bad guys for simply trying to exist, and some fans still fall for that.

[lucius121]

There’s still a massive amount of ego in Hickman’s writing and this more than anything puts me off, it’s a fine style to have but it’s not one I enjoy. I prefer someone like Ewing over Hickman in terms of style of writing. This is not limited to the current X-Men run, it always seems to me like the most important character in any Hickman book is the writer himself, as if putting his mark on things is more important than having a coherent narrative.

It’s amazing how many people on a discussion forum are incapable of reading others opinions without projecting their own prejudices and belittling other people’s perspectives.

[BitParallel]

I don't really have any so maybe this thread isn't for me but I think this is the most provocative and exciting that the X-Men have been in a LONG LONG time. The franchise feels like it's got new life breathed into by Hickman and various writers/artist and after the almost decade long stagnation the titles suffered, well if it comes at the cost of a few characters acting "OOC" I'll gladly take it. And the main reason for that is that I have faith it's all leading into something epic for the X-Men franchise for years to come.

Honestly as someone who has been on the this forum since like 2012, this is probably the most well-received a run has ever been. In the past, even other critically acclaimed runs seemed to have split views among the readers here. I always said that only the Wonder Woman was more critical than the X-boards.

But this run has been really popular and liked! There's obviously people who don't care for it or the direction but in terms of sheer number, it's probably the most positive I've ever seen this board

Pretty much. I am enjoying it too.

So far, I am largely indifferent. But again, I DO NOT put that on Hickman. I always had taste that was sadly drawn to things that were in the minority. So outside of sitcoms, when it comes to a franchise, I am a person who was usually only interested in certain characters that caught my eye. And sadly when you are a fav. character person, you're gonna be indifferent or frustrated a lot. lol

Now getting to Hix-Men, same thing. I have 3 actual favs. Two of them, imo, have been written in ways I can not & do not enjoy. So they're out. Sadly I have to avoid them. Which is easy for one because Hickman put them to sleep. lol I only have 1 left, and they're not really a focal point now, & are the only one of Hickman's top 5 to be getting so little focus.

So for now, I keep up with events via forum & review and some things sound nice & interesting, but it's nothing that is genuinely getting me excited.

May I know who are these 3 characters?

[Silver Fang]

May I know who are these 3 characters?

Deadpool -When written seriously.
Sabretooth -When written seriously. (which is rare these last 16 years)
Monet

[BitParallel]

Deadpool -When written seriously.
Sabretooth -When written seriously. (which is rare these last 16 years)
Monet

Wow wow wow. Very odd

[People Of The Earth]

I’ve been observing this board and boy oh boy so many X-fans aren’t on board with Hickmans vision (and that’s alright, no judgement).

1. I’ve seen some mad about the poly relationship direction.
2. I’ve seen some mad about characters acting OOC.
3. I’ve seen some mad about their fav characters not getting enough panel time.
4. I’ve seen some mad about the X-men acting like superamcists.

Not everyone is enjoying the ride like I’ve been led to believe. I, for one, is enjoying this run immensely, it’s been a minute since I’ve read a good X-book.

I do think the Xmen are acting cultish but they’ve been cultish this past decade so nothing new. They been acting a lil on the crazy side but I like them as morally grey folks.

So what is your main issue with the current run?

I am a long time fan of Hickman's writing, I've been reading both his independant work (East of West, The Manhattan Projects) and his previous works at Marvel (both on the ultimate line and in the main continuity with his Secret Warriors, SHIELD, FF and the Avengers).
I've Always hoped for him to take the lead on the X-Men franchise, because he's so brilliant, but also because the X-writers of the last decade have made such subpar work with that franchise, it's laughable.
I like the crafting of this story so far, the level of detail and attention Hickman put into the different concepts he's juggling with or has outright introduced. However, I find the direction where it's headed worrisome, and dread the subtext and moral implications some of the choices made in-universe have IRL, what kind of message it says to the world. Though I know enough of the man's work to expect Something even more riveting to come on the horizon.
All in all, it's issue 4 for me, though I'm mainly concerned about the X-Men renouncing Xavier's ideals, chief among them Xavier himself.

[tuck frump]

I’ve been observing this board and boy oh boy so many X-fans aren’t on board with Hickmans vision (and that’s alright, no judgement).

1. I’ve seen some mad about the poly relationship direction.
2. I’ve seen some mad about characters acting OOC.
3. I’ve seen some mad about their fav characters not getting enough panel time.
4. I’ve seen some mad about the X-men acting like superamcists.

Not everyone is enjoying the ride like I’ve been led to believe. I, for one, is enjoying this run immensely, it’s been a minute since I’ve read a good X-book.

I do think the Xmen are acting cultish but they’ve been cultish this past decade so nothing new. They been acting a lil on the crazy side but I like them as morally grey folks.

So what is your main issue with the current run?

Needs moar Sage and homoeroticism.