World War X

[H-E-D]

Their the bad guy by default. Traditional superheroes are effectively a rebranding of ye olde knight errant. Heroic journey, noble deeds etc. and they were also upholders or progenitors of systems of oppression lasting centuries. While hardly working class heroes (being property of the Mouse as well), the X-Men can at least market themselves as revolutionaries against a corrupt status quo the superheroes cling to. So yeah, they are pretty much automatically Villains in the context of the X-Men narrative

You say that, and theoretical situations are fun and all, but in practice that's not how it was played anytime it's happened in the modern era. Perhaps it's just because usually when the Avengers and X-Men are pitted against each other, it's the X-Men getting subsumed into an Avengers story and not the other way around.

[XPac]

Wakanda bein salty to a another non sapien nation double ugh

Wakandans aren't the ones being salty. It's the mutants deciding they're a threat because Wakanda is rejecting their drug offer.

[BitParallel]

A huge event is in the making and there’s gonna be war. That’s inevitable.

Let’s see; Krakoa was founded on a lie, Erik and Xavier are lying to their own people. Moira is doing her own thing behind everyone’s back. A-list villains are roaming around, and we know Sinister is cooking something aka Krakoa is doomed from the beginning and mutants have themselves to blame.


A civil war will break, Mutants will run to the avengers (like always) seeking refuge and then it’s Heroes teaming up against the evil/oppressive mutants. This event will demonstrate that non-mutants superheroes actually care about mutants and they will bury the hatchet. All superheroes will live happily ever after.

Oh, and Dr Strange will ask Jean out and she will accept.

[BroHomo]

Wakandans aren't the ones being salty. It's the mutants deciding they're a threat because Wakanda is rejecting their drug offer.

They rejected it because Wakanda probby has meds on par with the Krakoa Drugs they just won't share
Annnnnd they aren't acknowledging Krakoa as a Nation
Spotted in the recent X-Force preview Middle panel 2nd from Left

Willing to bet the lady in that seat is from Wakanda

[chief12d]

They rejected it because Wakanda probby has meds on par with the Krakoa Drugs they just won't share
Annnnnd they aren't acknowledging Krakoa as a Nation
Spotted in the recent X-Force preview Middle panel 2nd from Left

Willing to bet the lady in that seat is from Wakanda

THEY DO NOT NEED MUTANT DRUGS could either be literal or figurative because the data pages are vague and biased. But I’d much rather Wakanda not have life-saving drugs than Wakanda have them and not share. It was crappy, unnecessary writing then and it’d be crappy, unnecessary writing now. Writers should be able to make Wakanda advanced and
snooty without making them complete assholes led by BP.

And we still don’t know why Wakanda said no to Krakoan sovereignty in the first place. T’Challa might not fully believe the X-Men can keep global threats like Magneto and Apocalypse in check. Or in that 5 month time skip a black ops team raided a Wakandan facility for info and we’ll get a flashback. For all we know maybe he was just about to vote yes to Krakoa before he saw Emma mind control the Russian ambassador. There’s a bunch of reasons why T’Challa could’ve said no but regardless Krakoa isn’t happy and may make moves against them. It looks like they’re taking a proactive approach to things so they’ll eventually make contact.

[king of hybrids]

It’s not impossible that Wakanda’s refusal to recognise Krakoa is less to do with T’Challa and more on the new constitutional settlement, seeing as a lot of people are likely to be less forgiving of Namor (an X-Man, with whom Storm has done the dirty) repeatedly laying waste to Wakanda than T’Challa. Or the tone-deafness of Storm joining what has been explicitly compared to the East India Company is just that bad

Also the fact that the X-Men are now on openly on the ‘we are your new gods and we will inherit the earth’ train probably doesn’t appeal to anyone in a position to refuse the offer

[KOSLOX]

Or it could be that the last time the X-Men played at nation building they killed a bunch of Wakandans and started a war.

[XPac]

They rejected it because Wakanda probby has meds on par with the Krakoa Drugs they just won't share
Annnnnd they aren't acknowledging Krakoa as a Nation
Spotted in the recent X-Force preview Middle panel 2nd from Left

Willing to bet the lady in that seat is from Wakanda

We don't know for sure why they rejected it, beyond them indicating they don't need the drug.

Point being at this point it's the mutants we know are salty about the situation... how Wakandans feel about it remains to be seen.

Wakanda's relationship with mutant nations has had it's ups and down, from AvX to X-Men Red. Where this particular situation lands will definately be interesting.

[XPac]

Or it could be that the last time the X-Men played at nation building they killed a bunch of Wakandans and started a war.

In AvX things certainly got pretty bad with a mutant nation and Wakanda. But on the flip side, Wakanda was very very supporting of Jean and her attempt at making a nation in X-Men Red. Supportive to the point where he briefly offered them sanctuary in Wakanda. So Wakanda's relationship with mutant nations can sort of run very hot and cold. This appears to be the later though.

[KOSLOX]

In AvX things certainly got pretty bad with a mutant nation and Wakanda. But on the flip side, Wakanda was very very supporting of Jean and her attempt at making a nation in X-Men Red. Supportive to the point where he briefly offered them sanctuary in Wakanda. So Wakanda's relationship with mutant nations can sort of run very hot and cold. This appears to be the later though.

Maybe it has more to do with the people pulling the strings. I can see him not being thrilled to see a council with Magneto, Apocalypse, Sinister, Mystique, and Sebastian Shaw on it.

[chief12d]

It’s not impossible that Wakanda’s refusal to recognise Krakoa is less to do with T’Challa and more on the new constitutional settlement, seeing as a lot of people are likely to be less forgiving of Namor (an X-Man, with whom Storm has done the dirty) repeatedly laying waste to Wakanda than T’Challa. Or the tone-deafness of Storm joining what has been explicitly compared to the East India Company is just that bad

Also the fact that the X-Men are now on openly on the ‘we are your new gods and we will inherit the earth’ train probably doesn’t appeal to anyone in a position to refuse the offer

I kinda doubt the broader MU cares much about the Wakandan “democracy” Coates is pushing but Namor could definitely play a role. Even though he’s rejected the offer to go to Krakoa it seems like Atlantis recognizes their sovereignty and might enter an alliance with them. I could see that influencing Wakanda’s decision especially with what’s going on in Avengers.

Along with the general concerns about the Hellfire Company, which is historically an evil organization that to this day involves the likes of international criminal Sebastian Shaw. The fact Storm is there probably makes it more concerning also from a security standpoint considering she knows a lot about the kingdom’s capabilities and access points.

[Rosebunse]

It just seems rather insane for the X-men, and their fans, to expect all the other heroes of just accepting the villains. Apocalypse maybe, but Sinister? Why should anyone remotely trust Sinister? When in the history of ever has thay been a good idea?

[king of hybrids]

It just seems rather insane for the X-men, and their fans, to expect all the other heroes of just accepting the villains. Apocalypse maybe, but Sinister? Why should anyone remotely trust Sinister? When in the history of ever has thay been a good idea?

The mutants don’t trust Sinister, but they need his expertise (that vital component in their new immortality) more than they can afford the risks of slighting him. They know he’ll betray them, but his avenues of betrayal are ostensibly limited by Xavier’s telepathic commands and the fact that they’ve encouraged the mutant/chimera sinister clones to kill off the Other clones clone lines

There is also the red elephant in the room

[XPac]

Maybe it has more to do with the people pulling the strings. I can see him not being thrilled to see a council with Magneto, Apocalypse, Sinister, Mystique, and Sebastian Shaw on it.

Honestly I'm surprised so many X-Men are as okay with that as they are. I'm sure a good amount of comic readers are just waiting for that to blow up in everyones face.

[king of hybrids]

To reiterate.m: there is no event. The X-Men are not out to get our favs and vice versa.

An vs event would be a catastrophe sales wise, as would villanizing the X-Men. A general status quo of Cold War between the X-Men and the other marvel properties is about as antagonistic as Marvel could/should get

Maybe even a three-way conflict between Krakoa, the human governments and the superheroes (seeing as even the Winter Guard and Ascendants have bucked the leash more than occasionally)

Honestly I'm surprised so many X-Men are as okay with that as they are. I'm sure a good amount of comic readers are just waiting for that to blow up in everyones face.

Oh it is going to blow up in their face. A genuinely slighted Mystique alone will ensure that.

The only question is when, how and whether Krakoa survives