Your dream Xmen roster.

[yogaflame]

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Such a missed opportunity...

Such a fumble. I wanted X-Men ala The Authority. It did not deliver. At all.

I'd try again though, slightly tweaked with the new era in mind:

Ditch Piotr/Illyana/Danger for Apocalypse. He's the big guy, teleporter/mage, and techno-specialist all in one, and cooler than all of them combined.

Ditch Scott and Emma, replace with Synch and M. Synch takes Hope's place too.

So with that in mind:

Storm as leader, the only one who can keep the triumvirate of Magneto,
Namor, and Apocalypse in line.

Monet
Synch
and since we still have so many open spots add:
Rictor as earth priest, dating Blue Zaddy
Marisol/Flourish, but rename her Cultura as the fungus/plant elemental
and might as well add Logan for the heck of it.

Trinary, Sage and Prodigy are key support characters, along with Triage, Forge, and Mondo.

[Old Owl]

I would also like a X-team whose job is to protect the school and/or island consisting of Havok, Polaris, Dazzler, Gambit, Rogue, Professor X, and Bishop.

My Extinction team would be Storm, Exodus, Magneto, Namor, Monet, Ice Man, and Scarlet Witch.

My default X-Men team would be Cyclops, Storm, Jean, Beast, Wolverine, Ice Man, and Rogue.

The roster for Excalibur would have Captain Britain, Psylocke, Spider-Woman, Toad, Meggan, Spitfire, and Chamber.

[steve2275]

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Such a missed opportunity...

yes indeed

[Michael Watkins]

you said dream, right?

i want a what if style story where Charles Xavier is british (like he is, unexplainedly, in the cinematic universe) and the x-mansion is overseas.

Original 5: (think of the kingsmen w/ a splash of x-gene - they are all younger versions of existing characters whose personalities differ a bit because they've been mentored by Professor X)

1. Sean Cassidy - he's the cyclops of this group - top of the class, natural leader, but a little more outgoing than Scott. at some point his cousin might also be recruited. superhumanly powerful lungs, throat, and vocal cords used to produce a sonic scream for various effects, in concert with limited, reflexive psionic powers which directed his sonic vibrations.
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2. Peter "Pete" Wisdom - he's what you'd expect; the smoking anti-authority rebel of x-mansion. this version has no history as an intelligent agent; just a lot of cynicism. Pete primary ability is the absorption of ambient heat and solar radiation. he releases the absorbed energy from his fingertips as "hot knives" of pure thermal energy, said to be as "hot as the surface of the sun". He can leap from high distances and use the thermal energy to slow his descent. He can fire his hot knives as projectiles, or leave them attached to his fingertips like claws for close physical combat.
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3. Emma Steed - her name is really on the nose. but i didn't give it to her. anyhoo, she's a mid-level telekinetic who prefers to utilize it to make weaponry/restraints. she's a little like Monet St.Croix or a racier take on Jean Grey.
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4. Scott Wright - a student from southend-on-sea who occupies the space between Sean and Peter in that he's a brown noser who desires respect but lacks Sean's leadership ability/charisma and Peter's bravery/individualism. he'd be a reflection of his powers; a tragic figure who looks the part (because of his mutant ability) while being quite insecure & hollow underneath. his character arc would involve learning to love his true image, with the aid of his sometimes-victim Mortimer.
Scott has the ability to increase, decrease or redistribute his body mass, allowing for dramatic size change. He can shrink to roughly half an inch or as tall as 50 feet in height. His strength is proportionate to his size and at top size and density he can withstand the pressure from a 50-ton weight, and strike with a similar level of force. His mass redistribution allows him a limited degree of shape-shifting. i opted to just have him be scrawny & average looking in his true form (think Asa Butterfield) instead of whatever the hell Alan Davis was trying to depict.
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5. Mortimer Toynbee - i wanted to do right by poor Toad. this version would be a mix of Nightcrawler and Beast. being one of the "good guys" & not routinely being kicked around (although he'd still run into bullies) would bring out more of his personality. he'd also be the technologist/most mechanically-inclined of the group. that would benefit his self esteem. he possessed superhuman leg strength and endurance, agility, reflexes, coordination, balance, a superhuman ability to leap great distances. he also has an elongated tongue.
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as their adventures take place primarily outside of the United States, their rogues gallery also has an international flavor. there are other characters i wanted to work into the mix (ex. Garabed Bashur and Astrid Bloom) but stopped at 5 for synnergy.

[CRaymond]

you said dream, right?

Anglophile! Very interesting and sympathetic take!

+5 for using Micromax.

[ohsnapulon5000]

I would also like a X-team whose job is to protect the school and/or island consisting of Havok, Polaris, Dazzler, Gambit, Rogue, Professor X, and Bishop.

My Extinction team would be Storm, Exodus, Magneto, Namor, Monet, Ice Man, and Scarlet Witch.

My default X-Men team would be Cyclops, Storm, Jean, Beast, Wolverine, Ice Man, and Rogue.

The roster for Excalibur would have Captain Britain, Psylocke, Spider-Woman, Toad, Meggan, Spitfire, and Chamber.

I just want to see Dazzler and Gambit interact! They're both so cocky and smoooooooth. I like to think they never pass up a chance to outdo one another. Like Gimli and Strider. Two friendly bragging rogues who would be the most likely to Tango out of a dire situation if they had to. Completely platonic. 110% antagonistic. Mutual respect.

[Michael Watkins]

Anglophile! Very interesting and sympathetic take!

+5 for using Micromax.

thanks. i wanted Astrid Bloom. but i wasn't sure how old she would be relative to the others. she'd just be a later addition or maybe play a similar role to Tessa/Sage. if Tangerine were a person of color, she'd be in the roster too.

[CRaymond]

X-Men Animated Universe 90s Excalibur



Captain Britain
Dazzler

Meggan instead of Black Knight
Psylocke instead of Sage
Colossus instead of Juggernaut
Nightcrawler instead of Nocturne
Iceman instead of Pete Wisdom

[ohsnapulon5000]

Pete wisdom can stay. Dazzler needs someone to drive crazy.

[CRaymond]

ugh wisdom

[sungila]

ugh wisdom

yea, he should be retconned out of the Authority books he wasn't in and left there AND if he gets any new ideas about Kitty he can deal with Jenny Sparks before making his way, no he'd never survive that so there.

Now a Jenny Sparks / Dazzler crossover co-star could be something!

[CRaymond]

yea, he should be retconned out of the Authority books he wasn't in and left there

I'm not even opposed to the surly morally-gray bureaucrat iconoclast --I'm fully on board with a morally gray femme fatale opportunist Kitty Pryde. It's just... I felt Excalibur was the wrong book for a trenchcoat-wearing company man. I liked when their more romantic members like Nightcrawler had conservative minds like Brian and Micromax to contend with. The played-straight secret organization never worked for me, especially when their agent was bound to be bent toward the protagonists.

[sungila]

I'm not even opposed to the surly morally-gray bureaucrat iconoclast --I'm fully on board with a morally gray femme fatale opportunist Kitty Pryde. It's just... I felt Excalibur was the wrong book for a trenchcoat-wearing company man. I liked when their more romantic members like Nightcrawler had conservative minds like Brian and Micromax to contend with. The played-straight secret organization never worked for me, especially when their agent was bound to be bent toward the protagonists.

Much better and accurate and I agree. With everything but a 'serious' femme teenage Kitty fetale in Excalibur...Ellis either didnt get or care about Kitty's act like an adult not an adult identity that was crucial and important to that book and her at that time and in cannon as she progressed.

[CRaymond]

Much better and accurate and I agree. With everything but a 'serious' femme teenage Kitty fetale in Excalibur...Ellis either didnt get or care about Kitty's act like an adult not an adult identity that was crucial and important to that book and her at that time and in cannon as she progressed.

I think you're absolutely right. At the time, I felt Kitty was the least Excalibur of the original Excalibur roster. A younger hero who was ultimately the most grounded and least fantastic, whose teammates were a demonic swashbuckler, a psychic cosmic goddess, a magical shapeshifter, and a flying brick from a cyberpunk Arthurian dimension. She was their collective foil: a Spider-Man among Eternals. It makes sense that Lobdell and then Ellis would choose to position her as the entry and POV character, but the result lost all its charm. But her age and behavior was intentionally "adult"... it was an act in order to compensate for the wild reality of her surroundings. Like Alice, Wendy or Dorothy in their realms.

So then walks in Wisdom, from Her Majesty's Secret Super-Service, who's even MORE of an antithesis to the OG Excalibur fantasy, and of course he latches onto their anchor: Kitty Pryde.

Excalibur ALREADY had a Wisdom in the form of Dai Thomas. He wasn't sexy, and THAT was the point. He was burdened, weary, contemporary, and dragged Excalibur into the their place and time and away from becoming too mythological.

[sungila]

I think you're absolutely right. At the time, I felt Kitty was the least Excalibur of the original Excalibur roster. A younger hero who was ultimately the most grounded and least fantastic, whose teammates were a demonic swashbuckler, a psychic cosmic goddess, a magical shapeshifter, and a flying brick from a cyberpunk Arthurian dimension. She was their collective foil: a Spider-Man among Eternals. It makes sense that Lobdell and then Ellis would choose to position her as the entry and POV character, but the result lost all its charm.

So then walks in Wisdom, from Her Majesty's Secret Super-Service, who's even MORE of an antithesis to the OG Excalibur fantasy, and of course he latches onto their anchor: Kitty Pryde.

Excalibur ALREADY had a Wisdom in the form of Dai Thomas.

First, totally appreciate your critical perspective CR. Massively dig that you make reference to the setting of Excalibur being this incredible cohesion of Claremont bringing a heart on sleeve soul survivors 'after the X-Men' team into Davis' existing cyberpunked Moore-ian isle of multiversed myth meta puckstery. I confess I've yet to read the OG Capt. B in entirity...gotta do that.

Anyway and aslowise to me Kitty of Claremont and Davis in Excalibur was a girl in becoming...lots of sexual curiosity and fluidity...the dynamic with Rachel! She was safe to explore and does and her crush on Alistair Stewart and his sister being a kind of...well, let's say not Emma, but another version of empowered female...none of this was hard plotted or charted I don't think...it was left open. Lots left open in Excalibur.

Anyway Ellis and Lobdell mostly made that special world of exploration and fun increasingly unsafe. And given what I know now about Lobdell it all feels all the more sad, really.

Ellis is a writer I respect but don't enjoy reading when he's not doing his thing, with his own thing. It worked in AoA Exalbre for me maybe because of that.

Dai Thomas just being there standing in a panel with that team totally still makes me smile. This guy trying to stick to the script in that book!!??? So great.