View Poll Results: Should the X-Men keep trying for coexistence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tycon View Post
    Demons. All of them. If they won't accept their inevitable obsolescence to the Homo Superior then they will be crushed when Krakoa spreads their roots to the entire world.
    Oh, just admit you're nice and you don't literally want all humans to die!
    "A happy ending? So unlikely. We're not having a moment here.

    Wrong city, wrong people, all huddling in fear.

    No one escapes the slaughterhouse, and that's just where you're at.

    (You could've asked Rebecca but then Adam stomped her flat.)

    You think you're special cuz you're scrappy? You're deluded, time to go.

    Lucy's living on the moon but you're another dead psycho."

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    It feels a little unfair to allow certain humans on Krakoa where they can have free food and housing while the rest have to fend for themselves in America or whatever where they cant afford healthcare. For the sake of equality I dont think any human should have the right to live there, period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djoki96 View Post
    Emma having Scandinavian ancestry would be more of an obvious choice, unless there is something I don't know about her.
    Isn’t Emma a bottle blonde?

    It’s why there was that brief theory that Weapon Plus might have used leftover samples from Cap or Nuke for the Cuckoos

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuck frump View Post
    I (27F) just got into a fight with my boyfriend's(27M) dad (65M).

    We were in the middle of dinner at my new penthouse (5 floors!!!!) when in-law (we're not married yet but a girl can hope!!!) announces to bf he's decided to move in with us since we have so much space and he won't have to pay rent.

    For context, this dude has never been present in bf's life, didn't even watched him grow up because he was busy being a sailor or something, has a very hairy and smelly girlfriend, only shows up at our doorstep to borrow money and I have never seen him sober.

    I silently signify to my bf answer is a huge no, we can basically read each other's mind so I know he got it but he's very socially awkward and I can see he's struggling to get the point across. I try to jump in to his rescue but I haven't opened my mouth that his dad gets in my face, shouts that this is all my fault because I think I'm better than him (I'm european and they're americans) and that bf's ex-gf always let him sleep in their bedroom when he visited. Had to call the cops to escort him out but he came back later that night and crashed an ufo drone through our window which gave me ptsd war flashback to that one time I survived 9/11. Things calmed down now but I told bf it was either his dad or me.

    tl:dr my bf's dad threw a tantrum because I didn't want him living in my house. I feel I'm in my right but don't want to hurt bf's feelings. At the same time I feel like a real man would have protected me during the situation. Am I too demanding?
    What I'm gathering (so long as this isn't some spectacular metaphorical interpretation about the thread topic) is that some idiot wants to live off your dole, and thinks he has rights because you're putting it to his son, then got hysterical when you old him what time it was. What I'm also gathering is that you are the provider in this scenario, and he didn't even have the headspace to ask your permission. It's good that you've offended him. You should write a series of articles about him asking for things only to be told no.
    "A happy ending? So unlikely. We're not having a moment here.

    Wrong city, wrong people, all huddling in fear.

    No one escapes the slaughterhouse, and that's just where you're at.

    (You could've asked Rebecca but then Adam stomped her flat.)

    You think you're special cuz you're scrappy? You're deluded, time to go.

    Lucy's living on the moon but you're another dead psycho."

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    If humans can live on Krakoa just because their families are there, is it segregation of the family when kids go to bordering school where there parents can't live or have free access to where the other kids are. What is the world becoming...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrezValentine View Post
    They can visit or live in the mainland, as long as they don't pose a threat to people who aren't related to them. Or whatever is decided by the Council. They could very well be given a flower to plant a gateway in their houses, if they can't live in the mainland for the foreseeable future. It's a situation where they can analyze case by case, since allowing humans in general to live in the island just because they're related on first degree to a mutant is, at best, naive, and at worst, an unnecessary risk. It's honestly irrelevant to me and the point I was making on the overall theme of coexistence, so I don't know what you want from insisting in this specific subject.
    Obviously, and I'm pretty sure I actually said it, but the sapiens I'm referring to are the ones who want a relationship with their mutant relatives/friends/partners, the ones who love them.
    As for why I asked you those questions, it's because you didn't allude to the individuals and their experiences in the first answer you made, only about leaders and businessmen and the systems that they control.
    I'm glad to see some nuance being brought up to this discussion, it was lacking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwatson View Post
    If humans can live on Krakoa just because their families are there, is it segregation of the family when kids go to bordering school where there parents can't live or have free access to where the other kids are. What is the world becoming...
    Me when Im not allowed in the girls locker room after my sister football (not soccer!!!) game: actually this is segregation.

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    Well....if those allies are so supportive of mutant rights, then I'd hope they would at least take into consideration why Krakoa is mutant-only before complaining that they can't live on the island. I get humans like Kyle Jinadu or Izzy Guthrie, but if Peter Corbeau wants to go grab himself a pod house so he can get to talk to Xavier on a daily basis, then maybe that isn't a very considerate ally.

    Quote Originally Posted by Handsome men don't lose fights View Post
    Oh, just admit you're nice and you don't literally want all humans to die!
    hm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by People Of The Earth View Post
    First and foremost: I'm sorry you had to went through such ordeals, it's horrible...
    I can't imagine how hard this has been for you, and I hope you are now in a better place, on every level possible!
    I have to point out though, your grandmother and your family and the people who matter to you: they can travel to NYC and visit you there - even stay in the city if they want, am I correct?
    NYC hasn't forbidden them to enter their territory, right?
    So your analogy doesn't work because, unless I'm mistaken and it has changed since, NYC doesn't forbid some people on its territory based off their origins.
    Which is what I and others are wondering about Krakoa. Whether or not sapiens can be on that island.

    I'm also gonna say this one more time, and I hope, one last time - and don't take this personally, other people are doing the same thing than you just did:
    NO ONE IS QUESTIONING THE EXISTENCE OF KRAKOA.
    PEOPLE ARE QUESTIONING ITS POLICY TOWARD SAPIENS
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    Those are two different things.

    Questioning the policy of a nation doesn't equal questioning the existence of said nation. I wish people would acknowledge that FACT before answering here.

    Having said that, we'll see if Shogo is an exception to the rule, or the standard for the treatment of sapiens by the Kraked on their mainland.
    Thank you for the kind words, but I’d argue the analogy falls apart at the point that government-sanctioned genocide machines come into play. Krakoa is restrictive for a reason. Humans require an escort for a reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by king of hybrids View Post
    Isn’t Emma a bottle blonde?

    It’s why there was that brief theory that Weapon Plus might have used leftover samples from Cap or Nuke for the Cuckoos
    Not because of blonde hair. Frost is a Scandinavian last name.

    Although, it could be Welsh.

    Or Americanized version of German Forst.

    Or Scottish.

    The point is, it's mainly Scandinavian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuck frump View Post
    I (27F) just got into a fight with my boyfriend's(27M) dad (65M).

    We were in the middle of dinner at my new penthouse (5 floors!!!!) when in-law (we're not married yet but a girl can hope!!!) announces to bf he's decided to move in with us since we have so much space and he won't have to pay rent.
    Uh can I move in with my jack Russell?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwatson View Post
    If humans can live on Krakoa just because their families are there, is it segregation of the family when kids go to bordering school where there parents can't live or have free access to where the other kids are. What is the world becoming...
    very different situations. Some parents love boarding school to get rid of kids, some prefer the kids close

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    We all have certain goals, aspirations, and dreams that are ultimately never going to be fully realized. If those goals, aspirations, and dreams are good and honorable, the act of pursuing them in a good and honorable way improves is in so many way. It often improves the people around us who are inspired by the attempt. It makes our corner of the world a better place than it would otherwise be. Examples would be to be the perfect friend/spouse/brother/sister/son/daughter/etc. We know we'll never truly achieve being perfect, but we try and try and try. Real life dreams like MLK Jr and fictional dreams like Xavier's are always worth pursuing. For a devout Christian, it is to be as holy and kind and loving as Jesus. No matter what, they should never be abandoned. Of course, an idealist's heart beats in me in spite of surviving my "family". Obviously, I voted yes to the poll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    very different situations. Some parents love boarding school to get rid of kids, some prefer the kids close
    Either way the kids are living at a place their parents can't
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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    very different situations. Some parents love boarding school to get rid of kids, some prefer the kids close
    How is it different. Parent's don't have to send their children to Krakoa. They can let them stay where they are and hope for the best. There are a lot of good humans so whats the problem?
    Makes me think of the song "Can't have your cake and eat it tooooo giiiiirrllll"
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