I disagree, because something similar happened over in Green Lantern where we got introduced to a bunch of different "Spectrum" Lanterns of different colors that were powered by different emotions, and it totally watered down and bogged down the Green Lantern franchise for way too long. It was definitely an idea that outlived it's initial storyline, and I would hate to see something similar happen with a bunch of different "Forces" in the Flash's case.
Last edited by Uncanny Mutie; 11-12-2019 at 12:46 PM.
Don't even get me started on that. I HATE when they throw Flash into Justice League stories or stories with a bunch of other heavy hitters, and all of a sudden, all of his intelligence and power get put on the backburner just for him to become the team goofball, ala Spider-Man in the Avengers. And it's something that happens way too often with Flash these days, where basically the only panel time he gets in a team setting is him telling lame jokes in the heat of a tense battle, as if that's the only thing THE FLASH---one of the most powerful and most intelligent heroes in all of the DC Universe---can contribute.
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LOL, I've always thought most of Flash's villains are silly, goofy, severely outdated, and WAY below his weight class. Never understood when people say Flash has one of the "best" rogues galleries. That's why I said one thing that would help is if he got some new, updated villains who were more of a challenge to a guy as powerful and as fast as he is, and not just a bunch of derivative speedsters or "Force" based characters.
To each their own. I’ve been reading the Flash since the mid 80’s, and I think it’s a novel idea on creating new characters to add to the mythos. They can’t water down the franchise anymore than all of the other speedsters that are in the supporting cast, and cast of adversaries. If the Flash book became just a book about creating the next universal force, meanwhile neglecting the other rogues and supporting characters, like Johns’ GL book did after Sinestro Corps War, I’d see your point.
Honestly, no idea since I only started reading in New 52 and the story I'm interested in is Grodd, Rogues, and Reverse Flashes. By that I mean I'm still on that introductory mode where what I'm interested is hero vs villain, the basic stuff of superhero comics. I don't yet need something deeper.
The only personal stuff from Barry is his mother's murder, and since that's been resolved before I read it, I already got the gist of it. Beyond that, I haven't been introduced to anything personal from Barry that makes me care.
When it comes to Wally because my intro to him is him missing his family, that's the story I want to read, and I want him to succeed, as Johns did a really good job making me care about that in just one issue of Rebirth.
This is why where his story ended up at the moment makes me really angry because you don't introduce that heartfelt sympathetic story that looks like it's going to be his narrative but then decided "Nah. impossible". Like I wanna smack anyone who made that decision with Scott McCloud's guide to making comics
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Oh and Nightwing team-up. Again, just one issue is enough to make me really like their partnership.
Since Wallace is pretty attached to Barry or Teen Titans, I haven't been interested in him personally. He's still on Sidekick Mode for me, as in, his story's still part of Barry or TT for me.
Last edited by Restingvoice; 11-13-2019 at 04:41 AM.
I'm genuinely glad you're enjoying the current stuff but you've missed out on some seriously fantastic modern Flash comics. I believe both Waid and Johns'Wally West runs are available in nice, thick, numbered paperback collections and the super enjoyable Morrison/ Millar run is collected in one or two trades as well. Waid hits a bit of a slump before a strong finish and Johns' run is much, much better in its first half than its back end, but these are really excellent superhero comics overall. It would also give you a good idea why Wally West fans are currently so pissed off. And, before anyone mentions it, there are also some classic Wally West stories by William Messner-Loebs, but they haven't been collected yet.
Also, if you're looking for a more old-fashioned (but to me definitive) take on Barry Allen, both JLA: Year One and Flash/ Green Lantern: The Brave and the Bold are also readily available in both softcover and deluxe hardcovers, I believe.
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I can't think of a gangster who would unironically call themselves The Joker, at least the way Joker actually uses his name.
Captain Cold fits his powerset and his role within Flash's Rogues Gallery. The comics have been taking him seriously for years, as has the TV show. Fans would complain a lot if you treated him and the rest of The Rogues like jokes.
I don't see how The Flash can't be taken seriously any more then other Superhero properties, especially when there is so much heart and stakes set in every story.