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    Looking at the preview, Morrison is trying to be seriously meta here.

    But you can't critique edgelordiness by being more edgelordy. It will simply stuff more edgelordiness onto the pile. I think Watchmen already demonstrated that, and later events have only added more proof.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kjn View Post
    Looking at the preview, Morrison is trying to be seriously meta here.

    But you can't critique edgelordiness by being more edgelordy. It will simply stuff more edgelordiness onto the pile. I think Watchmen already demonstrated that, and later events have only added more proof.
    Yes you can, especially when it's being employed to highlight how wrong it is when contrasted with the "real" versions of the characters. It won't stuff more onto the same pile, as fans should be able to discern when a comic is being edgy for the sake of it or when it's making meta commentary about how the edginess isn't correct. Which Morrison usually does in all of his work, his work tends to veer towards the idealistic on the cynicism vs. idealism scale. It wouldn't work as well without the cynicism to contrast it

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    A hurdle with this kind of satirical approach to Diana is it's not far off from how a lot of writers depict her normally.
    To Morrison, Diana threatening to castrate someone with a sword is an absurd exaggeration. Meanwhile, that's just how guys like Frank Miller write her all the time.

    It reminds of an artist who tried to satirize female superheroes by making a character with a revealing outfit and oversized breasts...only to find his character looked no different than dozens of other female characters played straight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy_McNichts View Post
    A hurdle with this kind of satirical approach to Diana is it's not far off from how a lot of writers depict her normally.
    To Morrison, Diana threatening to castrate someone with a sword is an absurd exaggeration. Meanwhile, that's just how guys like Frank Miller write her all the time.

    It reminds of an artist who tried to satirize female superheroes by making a character with a revealing outfit and oversized breasts...only to find his character looked no different than dozens of other female characters played straight.
    The only instance I can think of Diana threatening to castrate someone was when she told Orion to stop harassing her in Azzarello's run. And even then she just punched him out when he refused to stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Z View Post
    The only instance I can think of Diana threatening to castrate someone was when she told Orion to stop harassing her in Azzarello's run. And even then she just punched him out when he refused to stop.
    She also grabbed his balls and threatened to tear them off.

    Anyway, it's more of an attitude thing that gives that sort of impression:
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    It seems to be a generalized satirical approach towards the New 52 takes. Azzarello's Diana was the best in that period, and even she threatened to castrate Orion. Meanwhile, until the last year or so Johns wrote her as a stab happy warrior lady.

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