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    Haha, good ol' Bunn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    Rogue was competent leading
    Was she? Half her team defected, Cable faked his death so he could kidnap a baby, and she wound up comatose and off the X-Men for like a year

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    Was she? Half her team defected, Cable faked his death so he could kidnap a baby, and she wound up comatose and off the X-Men for like a year
    not tomention, her team was composed strictly of bigger idiots then her except for Cable and Mystique who both played her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    Was she? Half her team defected, Cable faked his death so he could kidnap a baby, and she wound up comatose and off the X-Men for like a year
    every leader has failures, she was better on uncanny avengers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ambaryerno View Post
    GOD I hope that's not the version of Laura we get. While she had some badass moments she was just written horribly in Disassembled.
    To be fair the fact the hill referenced NYX implies he looked in to her rather then assume shes wolverine with boobs should hint shell be written well

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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    every leader has failures, she was better on uncanny avengers
    Rogue was great in Uncanny Avengers. Looked good on her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    Rogue was competent leading
    not as an X-man. She had one of the worst stints as leader in X-men history.

    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    every leader has failures, she was better on uncanny avengers
    Her failure was obvious though which made it worse. She had no valid reason to fill up her team with villians (Sabretooth, Mystique, Omega Sentinel and Lady Mastermind) and then act surprised when they all played her. Her entire stint as leader was a joke as she was made to look like a fool from day one and she wasnt able to redeem herself in that run
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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    every leader has failures, she was better on uncanny avengers
    That's like saying she was better when written by Rosenberg or Guggenheim. Everyone on Uncanny Avengers was awful, with Wanda and Alex being the absolute worst culprits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    Her failure was obvious though which made it worse. She had no valid reason to fill up her team with villians (Sabretooth, Mystique, Omega Sentinel and Lady Mastermind) and then act surprised when they all played her. Her entire stint as leader was a joke as she was made to look like a fool from day one and she wasnt able to redeem herself in that run
    Karima wasn't a villain. She just has this unfortunate tendency to get possessed and manipulated by external forces which make her villainous against her will.

    Quote Originally Posted by PsychoEFrost View Post
    That's like saying she was better when written by Rosenberg or Guggenheim. Everyone on Uncanny Avengers was awful, with Wanda and Alex being the absolute worst culprits.
    Not under Remender. She had a good stint with Duggan and Zub though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    Karima wasn't a villain. She just has this unfortunate tendency to get possessed and manipulated by external forces which make her villainous against her will.

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    Okay, same difference. She ultimately was used in a villian capacity as she almost always ends up. An omega sentinel should never be trusted and it was especially stupid of Rogue to invite a sentinel in the mansion after M-Day

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    Okay, same difference. She ultimately was used in a villian capacity as she almost always ends up. An omega sentinel should never be trusted and it was especially stupid of Rogue to invite a sentinel in the mansion after M-Day
    They already had sentinels parked on their front lawn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    Her failure was obvious though which made it worse. She had no valid reason to fill up her team with villians (Sabretooth, Mystique, Omega Sentinel and Lady Mastermind) and then act surprised when they all played her. Her entire stint as leader was a joke as she was made to look like a fool from day one and she wasnt able to redeem herself in that run
    Sabretooth was a prisioner, not a team member. Mystique was allowed inside the mansion (in a vote led by Cyclops) against Rogue's wishes. She didn't invite Karima. Cyclops and Emma brought Karima and Lady Mastermind to the mansion because they needed help after being found in one of Pandemic's labs. And Rogue took all these villains away from the school when she left with the team in the Conquistador. Plus she defeated the Children of the Vault and saved the world during Supernova.

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    ^ Exactly! Rogue did the best she could do in that situation and none of the X-Men were prepared for the betrayals. Also Karima was under the control of Malice
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hi-Fi View Post
    Sabretooth was a prisioner, not a team member. Mystique was allowed inside the mansion (in a vote led by Cyclops) against Rogue's wishes. She didn't invite Karima. Cyclops and Emma brought Karima and Lady Mastermind to the mansion because they needed help after being found in one of Pandemic's labs. And Rogue took all these villains away from the school when she left with the team in the Conquistador. Plus she defeated the Children of the Vault and saved the world during Supernova.
    But do you think she's intelligent? When written in-character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    Karima wasn't a villain. She just has this unfortunate tendency to get possessed and manipulated by external forces which make her villainous against her will.
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