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    Default Wildcat (Ted Grant) vs Daredevil (Matt Murdock)

    Showdown of superhero pugilists. Who wins?

    Bonus they sit and talk.
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    Yeesh. Poor Ted. He's a tough dude but is drastically outclassed here. Matt can run circles around the guy and beat him down at his leisure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Arbiter View Post
    Yeesh. Poor Ted. He's a tough dude but is drastically outclassed here. Matt can run circles around the guy and beat him down at his leisure.

    What he said.

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    Ted is CBPH, a highly skilled HTH combatant, and a resourceful hero. He was one of the people who taught Bruce Wayne to fight.

    Matt is low-end superhuman. It's not just the heightened senses and the radar sense, Matt is fast enough to be a legit bullet-timer, with a twist. On multiple occasions, Daredevil has actually swatted away an incoming bullet with his billy club, and in one case hit the shooter with his own bullet. On top of that, Matt was trained by a very experienced sensei with mystic kung fu feats. Matt is too fast to get hit in this fight, and while he isn't going to blitz Ted, Matt is going to steadily beat them down.

    Conversation probably won't be that interesting. They're both heroes, so they can talk about that as well as any two random superheroes. But Matt is a brilliant attorney and Ted is a champion boxer, and they were born in different eras, so they probably don't have much else in common to talk about aside from boxing. Ted might mention his old friend Charles McNider.

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    Cripes, Matt just blitzes, hits a few pressure points, and Ted drops. Nobody said 'boxing rules'.
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    Ted's primarily seen as a boxer, but he's also been said to be skilled in a number of martial arts. Matt will beat him, but Ted is not getting blitzed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nine Crocodile View Post
    Ted's primarily seen as a boxer, but he's also been said to be skilled in a number of martial arts. Matt will beat him, but Ted is not getting blitzed.
    Sadly, he probably is. Matt is a full on bullet timer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nine Crocodile View Post
    Ted's primarily seen as a boxer, but he's also been said to be skilled in a number of martial arts. Matt will beat him, but Ted is not getting blitzed.
    There's no question that Ted is a highly skilled fighter beyond simply a boxer.

    However, blitzing is dependent on speed, and on Rumbles we view people capable of reacting to/interacting with bullets as sufficiently fast to blitz someone who is more in the range of Batman, Captain America, and so forth. Given that Matt CAN blitz by Rumbles' Rules, and that he CAN use pressure points that take people out PDQ (this is not a boxing match, and he has used such things on many occasions), it's going to be a short fight.

    No shame there; it's just how it works out, hereabouts.
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    In addition to superior speed, Matt comes as somewhat more agile as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan View Post
    In addition to superior speed, Matt comes as somewhat more agile as well.
    And a degree of body-reading. Matt’s pretty ridiculous.

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    unless this is current matt, poor ted gets his ass handed to him.

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    You know, it doesn't specify which version of Matt Murdock this is, so it could be the Netflix Daredevil being summoned to fight Wildcat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Drunkard Kid View Post
    You know, it doesn't specify which version of Matt Murdock this is, so it could be the Netflix Daredevil being summoned to fight Wildcat.
    That might be a better one. Assuming Season 2 or Defenders Matt when he's at his best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy1 View Post
    That might be a better one. Assuming Season 2 or Defenders Matt when he's at his best.
    I suspect he'd lose. Ted's too much for the more-realistic (not 'realistic', MORE-realistic) Netflix Matt.

    Current comic book Matt, to be fair, isn't exactly his normal self, so Ted might very well take the guy who is getting re-trained by Elektra at the moment.
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    "...the Myths Transformed version of the legendarium, in which the Moon is Melkor's attempt to make his own Arda with blackjack and hookers."
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    "...dropping an orca whale made of fire on your enemies is a pretty strong opening move."
    - Nik Hasta

    "[Kent] Nelson was nearly invariably presented as the guy who, barring the Spectre, made everyone else generally gasp and go "Doctor Fate don't shiv, he balls nasty.", even Superman."
    - Pendaran

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpandpointies View Post
    Cripes, Matt just blitzes, hits a few pressure points, and Ted drops. Nobody said 'boxing rules'.
    Also he's got some whacking sticks. Everytime I've seen Wildcat he just boxed.
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