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    Quote Originally Posted by Sutekh View Post
    Psh. Not his sister. Just some girl he knew as a kid, whose family he stayed with for a time. Margali certainly didn't adopt him or anything...
    She raised him since he was a baby. Heck Kurt, Stefan and Jimaine used to take baths together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sutekh View Post
    Psh. Not his sister. Just some girl he knew as a kid, whose family he stayed with for a time. Margali certainly didn't adopt him or anything...
    I'm pretty sure Amanda was described as his foster sister a time or two. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong. It was still unsettling to see them bathing together that one time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MechaJeanix View Post
    I'm pretty sure Amanda was described as his foster sister a time or two. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong. It was still unsettling to see them bathing together that one time...
    I think, yes, Kurt considered Amanda as his sister at the beginning and then, later, it stops being important…

    It was also the case with Johnny Blaze who met Roxanne Simpson as a child and was raised with her…
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    I wonder if the creators will change Dani and Rahne’s due to the upcoming film.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RachelGrey View Post
    I would like the subtext addressed and lets just be blatant about where each character stands.

    Storm - confirmed bisexual
    Kate - confirmed bisexual (with a preference for women)
    Rachel - confirmed lesbian
    Illyana - confirmed lesbian
    Dani - confirmed bisexual or lesbian
    Emma Frost - confirmed bisexual
    Sunspot - confirmed bisexual or gay
    Mystique - confirmed bisexual with a preference for women
    Logan - confirmed bisexual
    Laura - confirmed bisexual
    Kurt - confirmed bisexual
    Gambit - confirmed bisexual

    That's all I could think of off the top of my head, I am sure there are lots more characters whose sexuality has been ambiguous because of stupid subtext and fear of actually being blatant about it.

    Oh, here's another.
    Johnny Storm - confirmed gay
    Pretty close to my own list, although I'd have Illyana as off-screen confirmed asexual/celibate romantic, specifically the forbidden loves of Kitty & Dani, and double forbidden love of Piotr, which is somehow less legitimate than the Kurt/Amanda step-sibling porn plot. (The maneuvers to get Piotr pumped up on Juggernaut and Phoenix power like a creepy stalker shows an emotional tangle that is otherwise hard to explain.)

    Maybe Illyana's asexuality with unrequited romantic love revealed privately in the conversation that Kitty and Illyana should have had during 'Original Sin', after the Watcher's Eye exploded as a Truth-bomb, revealing what was Hidden.

    I would expect then that Illyana would have erased the knowledge from Kitty's memory with a charm, like Magik erased Stevie Hunter's seeing Illyana's magical powers.

    Illyana would be extremely private about her sexuality though, having concealed her abuse and probable molestation by Belasco for ever, perhaps dressing as a Dominatrix as part of her smokescreen about asexuality.

    Magik ends up killing everyone she loves, so to the extent Illyana loves anyone, she must hold back her love; being a Hell Lord is a curse.

    Leah being Dead, and a fellow Hell Lord, made that relationship easy and straight... forward.
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    Also, telepaths, shape shifters, and metamorphs being bi sexual or pan sexual makes all sort of sense. I wish we could have those conversations. I mean Prodigy's explanation is clunky I really could see an argument for people who really at the end of the day are mental energy or those who can transform into any gender or different substances having a different understanding of sexuality. I mean felt like that is something Mike Carey was hinting at with iceman and him turning into water and mist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paleo_Rage View Post
    Also, telepaths, shape shifters, and metamorphs being bi sexual or pan sexual makes all sort of sense. I wish we could have those conversations. I mean Prodigy's explanation is clunky I really could see an argument for people who really at the end of the day are mental energy or those who can transform into any gender or different substances having a different understanding of sexuality. I mean felt like that is something Mike Carey was hinting at with iceman and him turning into water and mist.
    I’ve seen arguments that if Rogue absorbed someone who was attracted to females, then so would Rogue.


    I’ve also seen it discusses that if Rogue permanently absorbed a man like she did Carol, she would be attracted to women.


    (Though hasn’t she absorbed Wonder Man and Sunfire in the past?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paleo_Rage View Post
    Also, telepaths, shape shifters, and metamorphs being bi sexual or pan sexual makes all sort of sense. I wish we could have those conversations. I mean Prodigy's explanation is clunky I really could see an argument for people who really at the end of the day are mental energy or those who can transform into any gender or different substances having a different understanding of sexuality. I mean felt like that is something Mike Carey was hinting at with iceman and him turning into water and mist.
    True. I feel that superheroes comics, particularly from the big two, are still slightly behind the creative curve of what sexuality, gender and identity can be; how they can be used creatively to tell new and interesting stories and push boundaries.

    It’s why I’d really like them retcon Kurt’s parents to being Raven and Irene, one of Chris Claremont’s ideas which was way ahead of its time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will Evans View Post
    I wonder if the creators will change Dani and Rahne’s due to the upcoming film.
    Gah I hope not, but the fact that the movie will is literally stuck in some remote corner of Magik's Limbo this isnt a big worry
    Quote Originally Posted by Will Evans View Post
    I’ve seen arguments that if Rogue absorbed someone who was attracted to females, then so would Rogue.


    I’ve also seen it discusses that if Rogue permanently absorbed a man like she did Carol, she would be attracted to women.


    (Though hasn’t she absorbed Wonder Man and Sunfire in the past?)
    Ehhh that borders on Prodigy level wackiness
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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    You will have to proof both situations as they are right now it isn't any true, as Jean was never in love with Logan. Or that they would be fine as a throuple.
    Yeah. About that.....

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    I’d make more people poly on Krakoa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will Evans View Post
    Yeah. About that.....
    Still just one couple. I doubt it gonna confirm the two couples

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    So we have news now that Vita Alaya is writing New Mutants and we have the roster: Karma, Magik, Moonstar, Wolfsbane,Warpath, Warlock, and Gabby (Scout).

    Which is obviously a female majority roster.

    Then if you look at the known or hinted queerness of those members you get:

    Scout: too young but questioned her sexuality as being attracted to a girl on a bus
    Magik: severely hinted to be pan, bi or lesbian over the last few years
    Karma: known lesbian
    Warlock: an alien species who asexually reproduces

    That leaves Rahne, Dani and James.

    And if you didn’t know the recent New Mutants film (SPOILERS), the adaptation is explicit with Rahne and Dani queerness. As bisexual or lesbian.

    So with such a female-centric roster, do you think the “new” New Mutants book will change Rahne and Dani’s sexuality or hint at it? Not necessarily together either. But individual?

    For what it’s worth, Vita is a queer writer themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will Evans View Post
    So we have news now that Vita Alaya is writing New Mutants and we have the roster: Karma, Magik, Moonstar, Wolfsbane,Warpath, Warlock, and Gabby (Scout).

    Which is obviously a female majority roster.

    Then if you look at the known or hinted queerness of those members you get:

    Scout: too young but questioned her sexuality as being attracted to a girl on a bus
    Magik: severely hinted to be pan, bi or lesbian over the last few years
    Karma: known lesbian
    Warlock: an alien species who asexually reproduces

    That leaves Rahne, Dani and James.

    And if you didn’t know the recent New Mutants film (SPOILERS), the adaptation is explicit with Rahne and Dani queerness. As bisexual or lesbian.

    So with such a female-centric roster, do you think the “new” New Mutants book will change Rahne and Dani’s sexuality or hint at it? Not necessarily together either. But individual?

    For what it’s worth, Vita is a queer writer themselves.
    Some people seem to have pushed the idea that Dani likes girls, I don't know where it comes from, in New X-men she stated she is straight and to my knowledge she has only dated guys. Unless it has changed recently? And no, the movie doesn't count.
    Magik was bigtime into boys in the '80s. Illyana 2.0 hasn't really dropped many hints about her sexuality, seems she is not very interested about relationships.

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    Rachel being confirmed a lesbian is apparently happening and I can't wait. Even as a child I knew she was one.

    Magik being asexual could be very interesting too. We don't have many of them represented and I think Yana is a perfect candidate for it.
    A picture would last longer darling...

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