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    Default If you could change any X-men sexuality, who would it be? Why?

    For the purpose of this thread it could be anything, it doesn't matter if it doesn't have any previous tease or it is not canon.


    I would like Laura to be bi and gambit too.

    Also Wolverine, he has tons of chemistry with other guys, that would be fun.



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    I would like the subtext addressed and lets just be blatant about where each character stands.

    Storm - confirmed bisexual
    Kate - confirmed bisexual (with a preference for women)
    Rachel - confirmed lesbian
    Illyana - confirmed lesbian
    Dani - confirmed bisexual or lesbian
    Emma Frost - confirmed bisexual
    Sunspot - confirmed bisexual or gay
    Mystique - confirmed bisexual with a preference for women
    Logan - confirmed bisexual
    Laura - confirmed bisexual
    Kurt - confirmed bisexual
    Gambit - confirmed bisexual

    That's all I could think of off the top of my head, I am sure there are lots more characters whose sexuality has been ambiguous because of stupid subtext and fear of actually being blatant about it.

    Oh, here's another.
    Johnny Storm - confirmed gay
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    Thank you for your answer RachelGrey.
    Out of curiosity what do you think are the moments showing this subtext for Emma? I don't remember any
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    Quote Originally Posted by phoenixzero23 View Post
    Thank you for your answer RachelGrey.
    Out of curiosity what do you think are the moments showing this subtext for Emma? I don't remember any
    I think Emma's history with the Hellfire Club and I think she finds women very attractive. But overall, she probably does prefer men, but I think there were some hints laid out, particularly in regards to Rebecca and Anne, the two princesses that Sebastian killed when Emma became white queen, I think Emma was a lot more than friends with those two women.

    But overall, she does prefer men.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RachelGrey View Post
    I would like the subtext addressed and lets just be blatant about where each character stands.

    Storm - confirmed bisexual
    Kate - confirmed bisexual (with a preference for women)
    Rachel - confirmed lesbian
    Illyana - confirmed lesbian
    Dani - confirmed bisexual or lesbian
    Emma Frost - confirmed bisexual
    Sunspot - confirmed bisexual or gay
    Mystique - confirmed bisexual with a preference for women
    Logan - confirmed bisexual
    Laura - confirmed bisexual
    Kurt - confirmed bisexual
    Gambit - confirmed bisexual

    That's all I could think of off the top of my head, I am sure there are lots more characters whose sexuality has been ambiguous because of stupid subtext and fear of actually being blatant about it.

    Oh, here's another.
    Johnny Storm - confirmed gay
    Dani would be Bi she was shown going on a date with a boy in X-Men Unlimited and kissed Cannonball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RachelGrey View Post
    I would like the subtext addressed and lets just be blatant about where each character stands.

    Storm - confirmed bisexual
    Kate - confirmed bisexual (with a preference for women)
    Rachel - confirmed lesbian
    Illyana - confirmed lesbian
    Dani - confirmed bisexual or lesbian
    Emma Frost - confirmed bisexual
    Sunspot - confirmed bisexual or gay
    Mystique - confirmed bisexual with a preference for women
    Logan - confirmed bisexual
    Laura - confirmed bisexual
    Kurt - confirmed bisexual
    Gambit - confirmed bisexual

    That's all I could think of off the top of my head, I am sure there are lots more characters whose sexuality has been ambiguous because of stupid subtext and fear of actually being blatant about it.

    Oh, here's another.
    Johnny Storm - confirmed gay
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    Quote Originally Posted by RachelGrey View Post
    I would like the subtext addressed and lets just be blatant about where each character stands.

    Storm - confirmed bisexual
    Kate - confirmed bisexual (with a preference for women)
    Rachel - confirmed lesbian
    Illyana - confirmed lesbian
    Dani - confirmed bisexual or lesbian
    Emma Frost - confirmed bisexual
    Sunspot - confirmed bisexual or gay
    Mystique - confirmed bisexual with a preference for women
    Logan - confirmed bisexual
    Laura - confirmed bisexual
    Kurt - confirmed bisexual
    Gambit - confirmed bisexual

    That's all I could think of off the top of my head, I am sure there are lots more characters whose sexuality has been ambiguous because of stupid subtext and fear of actually being blatant about it.

    Oh, here's another.
    Johnny Storm - confirmed gay
    I'm glad it has been confirmed there is no canonical evidence oh her being bisexual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RachelGrey View Post
    I would like the subtext addressed and lets just be blatant about where each character stands.

    Storm - confirmed bisexual
    Kate - confirmed bisexual (with a preference for women)
    Rachel - confirmed lesbian
    Illyana - confirmed lesbian
    Dani - confirmed bisexual or lesbian
    Emma Frost - confirmed bisexual
    Sunspot - confirmed bisexual or gay
    Mystique - confirmed bisexual with a preference for women
    Logan - confirmed bisexual
    Laura - confirmed bisexual
    Kurt - confirmed bisexual
    Gambit - confirmed bisexual

    That's all I could think of off the top of my head, I am sure there are lots more characters whose sexuality has been ambiguous because of stupid subtext and fear of actually being blatant about it.

    Oh, here's another.
    Johnny Storm - confirmed gay
    Pretty close to my own list, although I'd have Illyana as off-screen confirmed asexual/celibate romantic, specifically the forbidden loves of Kitty & Dani, and double forbidden love of Piotr, which is somehow less legitimate than the Kurt/Amanda step-sibling porn plot. (The maneuvers to get Piotr pumped up on Juggernaut and Phoenix power like a creepy stalker shows an emotional tangle that is otherwise hard to explain.)

    Maybe Illyana's asexuality with unrequited romantic love revealed privately in the conversation that Kitty and Illyana should have had during 'Original Sin', after the Watcher's Eye exploded as a Truth-bomb, revealing what was Hidden.

    I would expect then that Illyana would have erased the knowledge from Kitty's memory with a charm, like Magik erased Stevie Hunter's seeing Illyana's magical powers.

    Illyana would be extremely private about her sexuality though, having concealed her abuse and probable molestation by Belasco for ever, perhaps dressing as a Dominatrix as part of her smokescreen about asexuality.

    Magik ends up killing everyone she loves, so to the extent Illyana loves anyone, she must hold back her love; being a Hell Lord is a curse.

    Leah being Dead, and a fellow Hell Lord, made that relationship easy and straight... forward.
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    Also, telepaths, shape shifters, and metamorphs being bi sexual or pan sexual makes all sort of sense. I wish we could have those conversations. I mean Prodigy's explanation is clunky I really could see an argument for people who really at the end of the day are mental energy or those who can transform into any gender or different substances having a different understanding of sexuality. I mean felt like that is something Mike Carey was hinting at with iceman and him turning into water and mist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paleo_Rage View Post
    Also, telepaths, shape shifters, and metamorphs being bi sexual or pan sexual makes all sort of sense. I wish we could have those conversations. I mean Prodigy's explanation is clunky I really could see an argument for people who really at the end of the day are mental energy or those who can transform into any gender or different substances having a different understanding of sexuality. I mean felt like that is something Mike Carey was hinting at with iceman and him turning into water and mist.
    I’ve seen arguments that if Rogue absorbed someone who was attracted to females, then so would Rogue.


    I’ve also seen it discusses that if Rogue permanently absorbed a man like she did Carol, she would be attracted to women.


    (Though hasn’t she absorbed Wonder Man and Sunfire in the past?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paleo_Rage View Post
    Also, telepaths, shape shifters, and metamorphs being bi sexual or pan sexual makes all sort of sense. I wish we could have those conversations. I mean Prodigy's explanation is clunky I really could see an argument for people who really at the end of the day are mental energy or those who can transform into any gender or different substances having a different understanding of sexuality. I mean felt like that is something Mike Carey was hinting at with iceman and him turning into water and mist.
    True. I feel that superheroes comics, particularly from the big two, are still slightly behind the creative curve of what sexuality, gender and identity can be; how they can be used creatively to tell new and interesting stories and push boundaries.

    It’s why I’d really like them retcon Kurt’s parents to being Raven and Irene, one of Chris Claremont’s ideas which was way ahead of its time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will Evans View Post
    I wonder if the creators will change Dani and Rahne’s due to the upcoming film.
    Gah I hope not, but the fact that the movie will is literally stuck in some remote corner of Magik's Limbo this isnt a big worry
    Quote Originally Posted by Will Evans View Post
    I’ve seen arguments that if Rogue absorbed someone who was attracted to females, then so would Rogue.


    I’ve also seen it discusses that if Rogue permanently absorbed a man like she did Carol, she would be attracted to women.


    (Though hasn’t she absorbed Wonder Man and Sunfire in the past?)
    Ehhh that borders on Prodigy level wackiness
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    Quote Originally Posted by RachelGrey View Post
    I would like the subtext addressed and lets just be blatant about where each character stands.

    Storm - confirmed bisexual
    Kate - confirmed bisexual (with a preference for women)
    Rachel - confirmed lesbian
    Illyana - confirmed lesbian
    Dani - confirmed bisexual or lesbian
    Emma Frost - confirmed bisexual
    Sunspot - confirmed bisexual or gay
    Mystique - confirmed bisexual with a preference for women
    Logan - confirmed bisexual
    Laura - confirmed bisexual
    Kurt - confirmed bisexual
    Gambit - confirmed bisexual

    That's all I could think of off the top of my head, I am sure there are lots more characters whose sexuality has been ambiguous because of stupid subtext and fear of actually being blatant about it.

    Oh, here's another.
    Johnny Storm - confirmed gay
    I won't comment on the others but I definitely think CC tried to present the idea of a love triangle between Kurt/Ororo/Logan and in more than just the straight way, and that was going to be the surprise. Just things I remember him saying at the time too. But wasn.t as invested in it as the thing with Kitty in Mechanix and X-Treme,

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    Quote Originally Posted by From The Shadows View Post
    I won't comment on the others but I definitely think CC tried to present the idea of a love triangle between Kurt/Ororo/Logan and in more than just the straight way, and that was going to be the surprise. Just things I remember him saying at the time too. But wasn.t as invested in it as the thing with Kitty in Mechanix and X-Treme,

    I was certainly invested in the idea...
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    Claremont was bugging.
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