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    Quote Originally Posted by Paleo_Rage View Post
    But the thing is.. we assume everyone is straight unless told otherwise so if characters later announce that they are gay , bi, pans, ace is it really changing **** or is it adding more nuance.
    I don't really have a clear-cut answer to that question. For example, I feel that Iceman being outed as gay (eventually) added a lot of depth to the character... But I also feel that it somewhat undermines some of the heterosexual relationships he's been in, you know?

    But nonetheless, I was exaggerating somewhat in my initial post in this thread. Yes, I'm against changing the sexuality of a character, but if/when it happens, it's no skin off my nose (as long as it's written well of course).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sкєʟʟує View Post
    I don't really have a clear-cut answee to that question. For example, I feel that Iceman being outed as gay added a lot of depth to the character... But I also feel that it somewhat undermines some of the heterosexual relationships he's been in, you know?

    But nonetheless, I was exaggerating somewhat in my initial post in this thread. Yes, I'm against changing the sexuality of a character, but if/when it happens, it's no skin off my nose (as long as it's written well of course).
    I agree that the way that it’s written really makes a difference. The way Iceman was outed (and yes he was forcibly outed) was honestly super gross. It wasn’t a gradual story of self-acceptance it was a complete invasion of privacy. Also, I’m convinced that BMB did it just so that people could point to some lasting impact from his All-New X-Men run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingdom X View Post
    I agree that the way that it’s written really makes a difference. The way Iceman was outed (and yes he was forcibly outed) was honestly super gross. It wasn’t a gradual story of self-acceptance it was a complete invasion of privacy. Also, I’m convinced that BMB did it just so that people could point to some lasting impact from his All-New X-Men run.
    Yeah, writers like Brian Michael Bendis (or as I like to call them, hacks) aren't suited for telling stories that require nuance and subtetly.

    The fact that man keeps getting work is utterly baffling to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paleo_Rage View Post
    She showed interests in Gambit and she lowkey flirted with Bishop. I always wonder how close she and shaw were?
    Color me shocked.

    Now I can see her sorrow while hanging alone at the Krakoa bar, as depressing.

    Probably feels she’s so overworked she can’t get a man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will Evans View Post
    Why isn’t Selene seducing innocent impressionable young girls on Krakoa?

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    Change of heart? Change of life?
    Anyway, isn't strange to complain that a character isn't doing dubious things?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zelena View Post
    Change of heart? Change of life?
    Anyway, isn't strange to complain that a character isn't doing dubious things?
    Really I’d be interested to see Selene interact with her granddaughter Magma.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyssane View Post
    My headcanon of X-Characters on the Kinsey scale:

    0 - Str8
    Rogue, Beast, Jubilee, Havok, Colossus, Banshee, Bishop, Cannonball, Boom Boom, Chamber, Wolfsbane, Strong Guy, Siryn, Juggernaut, Blob

    1 - 90% Str8, 10% Queer
    Professor X, Cyclops, Wolverine, Jean Grey, Angel, Nightcrawler, Forge, Cable, Emma Frost, Sunspot, Captain Britain, Sabretooth

    2 - 75% Str8, 25% Queer
    Gambit, Polaris, Kitty Pryde, Dazzler, Maggott, Sage, Domino, Madrox, X-23, Frenzy, Apocalypse, Sebastian Shaw, Empath

    3 - Bi/Pan
    Storm, Rachel Grey, Sunfire, Longshot, Shatterstar, Magneto, Daken, Avalanche, Exodus, Shinobi Shaw, all of the Externals, Shortpack

    4 - 75% Queer, 25% Str8
    Iceman, Mystique, Pyro

    5 - 90% Queer, 10% Str8
    Rictor, Mister Sinister, Destiny, Pretty Boy

    6 - Ghay
    Northstar, Karma, Bling!
    Nysanne, this post is perfection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by From The Shadows View Post


    If someone ever did need a confirmation here it is.

    Kurt is so cute :3 I wanna hug him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veitha View Post
    If someone ever did need a confirmation here it is.

    Kurt is so cute :3 I wanna hug him
    Oh, those two! .
    Since 1980, alone in a tent in the Canadian Rockies.

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    Which leads to...

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    Which leads to...
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    Motel room sex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Su_Whisterfield View Post
    Oh, those two! .
    Since 1980, alone in a tent in the Canadian Rockies.

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    Which leads to...

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    Which leads to...
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    Motel room sex.
    Couple goals <3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veitha View Post
    Couple goals <3
    The thing with Logan is, you can’t hide your scent from him, even if you are a good Catholic man who shouldn’t be attracted to a mass murder even if he’s his best friend...
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    Can you imagine, having those eyes looking at you like that? Knowing that you’re hurting one person who never judges you, who always supports you.
    And it’s completely unclear in context whether he’s sad for Logan having Ororo or Ororo having Logan. Or both.

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    Sorry. I can’t see it. Logan did Kurt’s mother Mystique, for goodness sakes!

    But then again, Kurt did his own sister Amanda, so you guys have a point!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will Evans View Post
    Sorry. I can’t see it. Logan did Kurt’s mother Mystique, for goodness sakes!

    But then again, Kurt did his own sister Amanda, so you guys have a point!
    I rest my case

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will Evans View Post
    But then again, Kurt did his own sister Amanda, so you guys have a point!
    Psh. Not his sister. Just some girl he knew as a kid, whose family he stayed with for a time. Margali certainly didn't adopt him or anything...

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