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    Brian potentially not being allowed visit would have less to do with ‘no flatscans or genetrash’ and more ‘Jamie is a monstrous s&@t with reality warping powers, who’d throw a fratricidal tantrum for giggles’

    If and when Ma Guthrie is barred from seeing Icarus when he’s resurrected on the grounds of being a baseline, then we can talk. Until then we assume that those baseline friends/relatives of the mutants can visit with a chaperone

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    In the "Fearless" mini there was this conversation between Storm and the still-powerless Guthrie sister where she remarked that when Sam and Paige last visited at home, while going out of their way to be nice, they can't seem to help but look at her differently in a way she found unsettling, all because her mutant ability never came back after all that time.

    And her hero name is now used by a non-mutant aero-kinetic Chinese architect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by useridgoeshere View Post
    Where is the scene of any human friend or relative wanting to go and being denied?
    Isn't the whole procedure a bit humiliating?
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    In the Dawn of X, all opportunities for humiliating non-mutants could be milked for all their worth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Londo Bellian View Post
    In the Dawn of X, all opportunities for humiliating non-mutants could be milked for all their worth.
    Why being nasty towards friends and relatives? It serves no purpose and seems to me counter-productive. Ah, yes, Krakoa said so. The god of mutants.
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    I hope XForce #2 has Black Tom performing cavity searches on Longhsot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hybrid View Post
    Ok we’re clearly getting nowhere with this. Dude, you keep missing the fact that all the X-teams had non-mutant members— being a mutant was never required for being an X-Man. It’d be racist and hypocritical if it were.

    But you’re fooling yourself if you think this is a permanent status quo. Considering everyone is taking issue with it in-universe, and it’s NOT portrayed as some wonderful thing, this is clearly leading to something. They’re not going to remain isolationist forever. X-Men is about equality, not segregation.
    We just had an entire thing about this not being segregation. Hickman even laughed at the idea that this could even remotely be called “segregation.” Please reconsider that your read on Krakoa isn’t considering that the MUTANTS are oppressed and that you aren’t being oppressed by not being denied in a safe place when you’re benefitting from the same system that causes the need for said safe space.

    Also I’m screaming, you think it’s racist for having “mutant as a prerequisite” is racist?? Are Black Panthers racist for being a Black-only organization?

    Quote Originally Posted by Londo Bellian View Post
    In the Dawn of X, all opportunities for humiliating non-mutants could be milked for all their worth.
    That’s something that isn’t happening. Notice how Brian Braddock didn’t complain about not being able to go through? Yeah until we see otherwise, that’s how all the mutant allies are responding to the situation. Anything else is just making things up to serve your own narrative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zelena View Post
    Isn't the whole procedure a bit humiliating?
    I take it you don’t travel. I’ve never felt humiliated applying for a visa to visit a foreign country.

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    I think we will see a Secret War fought by Krakoa and factions they come into conflict with. Krakoa will look to expand to underwater territories that may cause friction with Atlantis. Requests of help from space begins the X-men expanding into space. A war between mutants and mystical embued foes begins a series of evolutional tests.

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    And come what all challengers Krakoa will overcome, destroying these same challengers in the process. "The X-Men are WINNING!" "Additive (for them alone), not destructive (that's for the rest of Marvel)!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Londo Bellian View Post
    And come what all challengers Krakoa will overcome, destroying these same challengers in the process. "The X-Men are WINNING!" "Additive (for them alone), not destructive (that's for the rest of Marvel)!"
    Do you actually believe that?

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    After this "Incoming" thing plays out, I'll get back to you. *COUGHDeadlyAllianceCOUGH*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maestroneto View Post
    They have no idea what happens in the movies, which is why we got that baffling retcon to Carol’s origin because all the movie advertizing suggested she was part Kree. But then it turned out the movie played the origin fairly straight.
    Hm. Well fuck.

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    Anyways, there's definitely something this is building up to. As we saw, Reed Richards wasn't exactly thrilled with the idea of giving mutant criminals like Sabretooth amnesty just for being mutants, and that's hardly the lone incident. That's what I meant to discuss. As I said, this is an interesting read, but I highly, highly doubt this is the permanent status quo regardless of how Hickman's run ends.

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    But that's what the readers keeping the titles on the Top 10 want! To keep it this way ad infinitum.
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