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  • Scott Summers deserves better

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  • Scott Summers used to be right

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    Default Was bringing Cyclops back a mistake?



    Scott Summers had the most interesting character arc of any XMen in the 21st century. It was a thinly veiled ripoff of Storm 80's journey but it was fun to watch. The ending was anticlimatic due to Marvel's aversion of anything XMen at the time, but he died a martyr for the cause. It was a great symbol.

    Now he's been brought back but he's also been regressed to Xavier's top soldier, essentially his 90s characterization. He's lost his edge and the story dont provide any opportunity for him to show what made him a great protagonist in the 2010's. He's not even mutantkind #2 since that role went to Magneto. So was it worth it? Now that Jean's back, wouldnt he have been better off as the one XMan who died for the cause and stayed dead, at least for a few years more?

    *I know the way HoX works he would be brought back anyway but thats neither here nor there. The question is SHOULD he have been brought back considering the current statu quo.
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    The only mistake done was Scott's Death in the first place. IvX was poorly done.

    As for Cyclops, he's still an awesome character. But I see what you mean. Post M-Day really skyrocketed him. Cyclops went from my favorite X-Man to my all-time favorite hero. All you need is a good writer and story to do it to keep that train rolling.

    With Hickman's X-Run so far, its a little odd but its not bad. Its a different direction they're going in and I'm curious to see where the journey goes.

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    Regarding Scott's role in the X-men JDW said and I quote.

    I would say that he believes fully in what they are doing, and that they, in turn, know they can count on him to get their goals achieved more than they could any other person in the world.
    I think he is the rock that their island nation is built upon. And I think that he is still very much a leader of his people, I think the people of Krakoa know him and what he has done for them over the years, and they look up to him. He is the head of the X-Men in any Super-Hero activity which is essentially the military of Krakoa. He might not be RULING Krakoa, but he is definitely leading it.

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    The mistake was not bringing him back as Triclops, Portal of the God Gaze.
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    Scott was never more interesting than during Morrison's run and post AvX. Killing him was a mistake to begin with, especially in a story as trash as Death of X or IvX or whatever it was called.

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    Interviews are marketing devices to inform how you should read the story. Id rather base my decision on whats in the actual book. I scoffed when fans complained about Cyclops apparent demotion in HoX. After XMen #2 Im starting to see their point, its not that his current position is absolutely unviable, its that it works for a character in an ensemble cast, not a protagonist. Bringing him back to his old statu quo while still treating him as the MC makes for boring stories, for obvious reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuck frump View Post
    Interviews are marketing devices to inform how you should read the story. Id rather base my decision on whats in the actual book. I scoffed when fans complained about Cyclops apparent demotion in HoX. After XMen #2 Im starting to see their point, its not that his current position is absolutely unviable, its that it works for a character in an ensemble cast, not a protagonist. Bringing him back to his old statu quo while still treating him as the MC makes for boring stories, for obvious reasons.
    Scott isn't X-men. He's a member of the X-men and their leader. The time you're talking about was when he was alone. He had a small team of X-men post Schism & post AvX. X-men as a whole is much bigger now. I don't see as a character regression. It's how he perfectly fits within the story.

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    Killing him was a mistake in the first place. I never made it past the 5 first pages of the Inhumans vs X-men crap.

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    I don't think it was a mistake bringing him back, it was going to happen eventually anyway. I do think that they should have just waited for HoX rather than bringing him back for Rosencanny. It would have made that scene where he shows up to talk to the FF so much more cool and powerful if that was the first we saw of him since dying.

    As for his character regressing, I also don't think that's the case. If anything it's that the rest of the mutants and X-Men have come around on his way of thinking, so there is no reason for him to shoulder all the responsibilities anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuck frump View Post
    Interviews are marketing devices to inform how you should read the story. Id rather base my decision on whats in the actual book. I scoffed when fans complained about Cyclops apparent demotion in HoX. After XMen #2 Im starting to see their point, its not that his current position is absolutely unviable, its that it works for a character in an ensemble cast, not a protagonist. Bringing him back to his old statu quo while still treating him as the MC makes for boring stories, for obvious reasons.
    Cyclops is the clear protagonist and only POV of the book. It's not a demotion at all

    I'm not seeing the option "yes, it is a mistake"
    At least if writers doesn't make the character more dynamic

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    Not a mistake at all. There is no regression Cyclops position in this new status quo makes sense he's one of the leaders of Krakoa as well as the head of military.

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    LMAO at those poll options.

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    What's with this poll anyway, all those answers seem to be that no one likes the current status quo.

    Scott was right before he died, he's still right, and I am glad he's back. I enjoyed X-Men 2 and my only criticism is that Rachel and Nathan were generic kids in that issue and Scott got all the development, but even with that criticism I still liked the book and I enjoyed seeing Rachel and Nathan hanging out with their Dad!
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    Cyclops is fine y'all need to let the man be a father. Not every Scott Summers moment is going to be badass
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    Quote Originally Posted by tuck frump View Post
    Now he's been brought back but he's also been regressed to Xavier's top soldier, essentially his 90s characterization. He's lost his edge and the story dont provide any opportunity for him to show what made him a great protagonist in the 2010's.



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