Gods and Goddesses on Krakoa?

[Celestialbodies]

And BOOM! People are so hype to deny Storm her intersectionality until the X-books acknowledge it. Lol I think I’ll wait right along with them in that regard. Issa mess, it’s just a really big mess.

I guess the further question I have is, does developments with characters not count if done in another franchise?

[CoCoBandz]

I guess the further question I have is, does developments with characters not count if done in another franchise?

It's a shared universe so of course it counts until shown otherwise or contradicted. Even the bad.

[Celestialbodies]

I dont think she became a god until Morrison as he literally had he ascend beyond humanity. As Phoenix of the White Crown, she existed outside of time and space and was doing things far beyond mortality



Not even Claremont had her power levels such that she could hold an entire timeline in her hands and eradicate it

Being fair there are multiple characters in Marvel who are deemed Gods or Goddesses who have not or do not exist outside of time/space let alone manipulate the forces Jean has even as the Green/Dark Phoenix.

[Celestialbodies]

It's a shared universe so of course it counts until shown otherwise or contradicted. Even the bad.

Doesn't seem to be the consensus in this thread.

[Sunny]

Agreed, with this there are characters who haven't used abilities in years and fans will argue that case to death. I'm confused as why Storm being validated as a Goddess in an actual book is subject to having to meet a certain standard?

She's a Goddess and a mutant the same way, Dani was a mutant and a Valkyrie, or Jean is a mutant and host for the PF, or Magik is mutant and a sorceress, you can mutant and multiple other things!!

I agree with you but apparently Storm needs permission from her X-masters to be anything other than a mutant.

[tuck frump]

Just checked and in the original run, Phoenix successively resurrected herself, lost her corporeal form to become a concentration of pure energy, fused with the entire galaxy and recreated it as it was being destroyed. That was long before achieving WPOTC status but still godly enough by any standard. Phoenix is also powered by all unborn life in the universe tho I didn't read that story.

[Devaishwarya]

Jean being the White Phoenix Of The Crown underscores the point that...while under particular writers, certain characters have attained Godhood and used that power once/twice it does not make them Gods, in fact as well as name...from that moment onward.

For all the Cosmic Power she wielded (past tense, and for a far longer period than Storm held/used that power against the Adversary) Jean now is 'just' an Omega Level telepath.

The true "Gods" here are the writers who giveth and taketh away at a whim and will.

[Tycon]

nope darling I provided the receipts from an official marvel encyclopedia. all canon beloved. it also mentions her love for tchalla and nothing about being bi or loving yukio. just saying :*

Does it mention her love for Wolverine? Or does that mean it isn’t canon now?

No. Kiss clearly provided proof of Storm’s goddess status documented in official marvel text. She able to absorb and transform worship into power. That’s not I simply implied, it’s outright stated. Her bisexual nature is anything but.

I’m not talking about whether she’s a god or not, but the implication that she has immeasurable durability.

[terrancejameson]

I guess the further question I have is, does developments with characters not count if done in another franchise?

Apparently not. Rogue’s disdain and adversarial relationship with Wanda apparently isn’t a thing, I guess. No wonder people still make arguments to suggest that Storm could be taken out by electricity. You know, people even ask if she could make it rain on the sun. Still, we’re waiting on books featuring certain X-men characters to be validated by X-books featuring X-men characters that appear in non-X-men related books.

It's a shared universe so of course it counts until shown otherwise or contradicted. Even the bad.

That’s what I thought, but alas...

Doesn't seem to be the consensus in this thread.

You got that sense, too? I wonder what that is?

I agree with you but apparently Storm needs permission from her X-masters to be anything other than a mutant.

Miss, you won. You won the thread! I ain’t wanna say it...

[butterflykyss]

I agree with you but apparently Storm needs permission from her X-masters to be anything other than a mutant.

hello!!! say that again for the folks in the back to hear!!

Does it mention her love for Wolverine? Or does that mean it isn’t canon now?

I’m not talking about whether she’s a god or not, but the implication that she has immeasurable durability.

why do you want her to be bisexual so badly? if she was they would clearly show it like they have done with iceman and daken. it wouldnt be all this hidden subcontext.

[Tycon]

why do you want her to be bisexual so badly? if she was they would clearly show it like they have done with iceman and daken. it wouldnt be all this hidden subcontext.

Because I love Storm and I also love bisexual representation. Pretty simple. They barely show Psylocke being bisexual, why would them being coy with Storm be such a surprise? And Iceman isn’t even bi.