Is "Mutants will replace humans" supremacist rhetoric?

[LordUltimus]

This seems to be a sticking point; that Charles' "we will replace you" bit in his speech to the human world is a sign of mutant supremacy. Thought we needed a seperate place to discuss this.

[Glio]

It is supremacist that humans are terrified of demographic changes, just as it is in countries where whites are terrified of the birth rates of other races.

In the case of mutants, it is a simple natural fact if there is no mutant genocide, as seen in ORCHID calculations in House of X # 1.

[Tycon]

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[king of hybrids]

Only because Human supremacists have ensured that the divide is so bitter.

If it wasn’t, the earth would, other than some obvious practical changes, have cultural continuity in the handover from Sapien to Superior. Now, even the study of human languages will be discouraged in favour of Krakoan once the E-gene activates.

[Wild Fang X]

It's not supremacist rhetoric, it's stating evolutionary and biological fact. Taking into account of the findings of the scientists of the MU have proved this statement to be true for decades now, I don't see the reason for alarm, unless many that heard Charles' message were already hostile towards mutants. Hell, the average flatscan in the MU are hostile to other flatscans for arbitrary reasons as current. The main reason organizations such as ORICHIS exists is due to the irrational fear of replacement and using that to justify creating weapons of genocide with much of said technology having been created by prominent figures in the MU (Richards, Stark, Brashear, etc.), which was brought to the world's attention by Dr. Bruce Banner/the Hulk. As a result of this irrational fear, flatscans use the various mutates (many of the Avengers, Spider-Man, Fantastic Four, etc.) as proxies, and most likely, humankind's final line of defense against the perceived aggression of mutants.

In other words: the idea of there being mutant supremacist rhetoric is just another excuse for hostile human supremacists to make some grand call to arms, which could very well be their final chance at staving off said "replacement" instead of allowing evolution and nature run their respective course.

[AbnormallyNormal]

No, it's biological observation largely. In-universe, the concept is humanity is becoming mutants over time.

[Mutant X]

That's one of the most interesting new plots Hickman has created.

Because Moira, Xavier and Magneto know that it's a lie. Mutants are not the future.
But it didn't stop they create a nation based on this idea.

A parallel can be drawn between this and the darwinist ideas that led to nazism.

[Handsome men don't lose fights]

It's not supremacist rhetoric, it's stating evolutionary and biological fact. Taking into account of the findings of the scientists of the MU have proved this statement to be true for decades now, I don't see the reason for alarm, unless many that heard Charles' message were already hostile towards mutants. Hell, the average flatscan in the MU are hostile to other flatscans for arbitrary reasons as current. The main reason organizations such as ORICHIS exists is due to the irrational fear of replacement and using that to justify creating weapons of genocide with much of said technology having been created by prominent figures in the MU (Richards, Stark, Brashear, etc.), which was brought to the world's attention by Dr. Bruce Banner/the Hulk. As a result of this irrational fear, flatscans use the various mutates (many of the Avengers, Spider-Man, Fantastic Four, etc.) as proxies, and most likely, humankind's final line of defense against the perceived aggression of mutants.

In other words: the idea of there being mutant supremacist rhetoric is just another excuse for hostile human supremacists to make some grand call to arms, which could very well be their final chance at staving off said "replacement" instead of allowing evolution and nature run their respective course.

It's not a fact, though. It's not even an absolute. In Kang's era, humans are still the dominant race. By the Infinity watch era, we've spread across the galaxy and are just as important as the Kree and the Shi'ar. Not to put too fine a point on it but exactly when are our glorious replacements meant to put us aside?

[Londo Bellian]

Maybe in this tenth life of Moira X? Additive, not destructive. The mandate guarantees mutantkind cannot fail (until Hickman steps down[?]).

[Force de Phenix]

It is supremacist that humans are terrified of demographic changes, just as it is in countries where whites are terrified of the birth rates of other races.

There was a part of the fanbase that adopted demagoguery when they thought the inhumans were taking over. That's why the inhumans served as a metaphor for immigrants and refugees. It showed how they learned nothing from reading X-Men. Marvel took advantage and made DoX, etc. In the real world, not all minorities work together, and it was reflected in the comics.

Mutants are the next step in evolution, so humans won't be replaced, but it's their next phase. Like how humans developed speech and thumbs.

[Tycon]

It was always weird having Inhumans be a metaphor for immigration when they were a classist society. It came off more as colonization with them bringing disease to wipe out natives rather than indigenous Americans looking for a new home.

[The Quiet Councilor]

It was always weird having Inhumans be a metaphor for immigration when they were a classist society. It came off more as colonization with them bringing disease to wipe out natives rather than indigenous Americans looking for a new home.

Were they ever really a metaphor for immigration? Given the Alpha Primitives, they’ve generally read more as commentary on the idea of utopia.

[Frobisher]

It’s more like humans will become mutants. It’s only “replace“ in the sense that millennials will inevitably replace boomers.

The cro-magnon extinction smile never made sense because cro-magnons didn’t make Homo sapiens babies.

[LordUltimus]

Were they ever really a metaphor for immigration? Given the Alpha Primitives, they’ve generally read more as commentary on the idea of utopia.

How intelligent the Alpha Primitives always varied. Kirby probably intended them to be not much more intelligent than service dogs or horse's drawing carriages.

[Force de Phenix]

Were they ever really a metaphor for immigration? Given the Alpha Primitives, they’ve generally read more as commentary on the idea of utopia.

They were. They were new, and people saw them as invaders when they were people all along. They were very intolerant towards them and blamed them for everything wrong.