Well, yeah! Just not a human one. A superhuman one. If powersource is just his physiology like back in the day. He wouldn't compete with normal humans. Because there wouldn't be much point.(not that, he is greater than people.he is just better at it). Its dc clark can have loads of competition. Even if it weren't, there is tons stuff we can make up.For me, superman is a statement on talent. "talent should be appreciated, not scorned". With Superman it is, most of the time. He is gifted and has affinities.
I haven't bashed anything. When did i bash anything? I have no malice. This was general post against this notion that action for superman should be seen as secondary or trivial .i firmly believe, Superman fans need to get of that train.Even, clark kent fake perona is based on action. Different kind of action, comedic action . But, action nonetheless.if tyler can do those. That's great. Especially, gymnast bit. Superman being agile is something that isn't well presented. Especially, in outside media.But, i do have problems with his looks, costume.. Etc. It affects the presentation. And ofcourse,how he is booked in the show.for a guy who is the freaking superman and getting a show. His booking isn't great. His kids was pushed more than him in that crossover. That kind of nonsense is bad.Presentation and booking needs to change. Its legitimate complaint. Addressing it will only improve the content. As said, sonic the hedgehog. It can be changed with just attention to detail. That's it.
Last edited by manwhohaseverything; 02-01-2020 at 07:31 PM.
Look folks, it's fairly obvious the Supergirl writers purposely nerf Superman to not have him overshadow Supergirl on her on show. The problem is that they badly disrespect the character Superman in the process. They don't have to knock down Superman as to have him not overshadow Supergirl, wholly unnecessary.
I'd like to agree with you but there is a point where something has no drama. For instance, a fight where the Flash keeps ignoring his speed doesn't feel dramatic. It feels stupid. I had no problem with Supergirl beating Superman although I kind of wish they had done it in a way that was more believable such as her being faster and more skilled. Instead, it's a John L. Sullivan fight of two people just trading all-out roundhouse punches until one drops. There was no trickery involved. But that's just generally stock CW bad fight choreography.
I think those of us who are superhero fans get used to just accepting things that often make no sense even within the context of the story. I remember watching one animated Batman episode where Darkseid was whipping up hurricane force winds and Batman was holding onto a rope to prevent himself from being blown away. My housemate, who is not particularly a superhero fan walks in, laughs and says, "I love how Batman is supposedly a human without super powers but he's holding onto something with his hands and resisting being blown away by a wind that is uprooting buildings". Then he just walked away.
Power with Girl is better.
See, being human in action fics can be different from human in real world. The problem is inconsistency in that. DC treats its human in action fantasy kind of context, when he is dealing with supernatural. When realism comes to play. Batman becomes pure human like us. It's like one piece or any other shonen. Humans have the potential to slice of a mountains, punch a man to moon with a training like 100 pushups, 100 situps, 100 squats,10 miles running every single day. That's were fantasy kick in. Realism takes back stage.
Either batman should be treated with realism or fantastic treatment. Writer need to choose what kind batman they want. It is an either or situation.
Last edited by manwhohaseverything; 02-01-2020 at 10:18 PM.
I’ve definitely seen people point out Kara’s intellect in the Silver-Age stories which gets muted out because of low level gender bias from writers and the generally much more subtle-to-nonexistent approach to characterization.
That said, Benoist’s Kara is a nerd and the fun chemistry she has with Grant Gustin is similar to Grant Gustin’s chemistry opposite any nerdy CW character (in particular Felicity and Ray).
And the Brainiac 5 chemistry in the comics always hinged on her nerdiness. This is part of their chemistry, implicitly, when you set aside goofy stuff like Brainy having an Oedipal complex for blonde women. He is ANNOYED by less intelligent people and he rarely if ever talks down to her. He definitely seems to regard her as someone he doesn’t have to dumb things down for and frequently trusts her to respond to complex plans without a primer.
My big problem is HOW they knock down Superman. I have no problem with the idea that Kara is more scientific or hopeful or that females process solar radiation differently. My problem is when they suggest she is wiser or more moral. I don’t mind Superman playing second fiddle on someone else’s show. I do think they’ve been sloppy and imprecise with how they foregrounded Kara.
Exactly, and it's not even necessary. Supergirl should be able to shine on her own without putting Clark down like that. But I guess the CW writers just don't know a better way to do it. It really speaks of their insecurity about the qualities of the Supergirl character and her importance in the Superverse.
I just find comfort in the fact that No matter how hard DC, the CW and even WB have tried to make Kara more relevant than Clark, people and fans in general know who the real ICON is, and that is the original superhero Superman. Keep trying CW, and keep failing.
nope, I didn't.Supposedly, and I'm guessing you're aware, he was the last man cut before the producers settled on Dean Cain.
I feel so cheated.
Last edited by stargazer01; 02-05-2020 at 11:51 AM.
After his initial appearance, the writing quickly turned and it has blatantly put down Clark for Kara and yet i still hear SG fans complain about Kara needing a lot of help weekly and so i ask why even ruin Superman if they can't even write for Supergirl on her own? They've gained nothing but the fans' ire. To be honest, Superman's been taken down a peg or three for years in the comics to raise someone else's stature and it always rubs raw. The SG show runners aren't doing something new, it's just so horribly obvious and yet at the end of it all, Clark still stands as the true "icon" of the two, whether in the narrative or beyond.
Edit: I'm not expecting quality with the CW show, but i am hoping the course correct and undo all the jobbing nonsense that's stained people's expectations of the character on this particular platform.
Last edited by rpmaluki; 02-05-2020 at 12:14 PM.
My son, a teenager, doesn't even take Supergirl seriously.. he thinks she's just a cheap Superman ripoff.. When I first started watching her show (our of curiosity), I asked him to join me, but he refused. He likes Wonder Woman fine.
He also likes Superman. He really likes the animated JL show from the 00s.
wrong thread
Last edited by Last Son of Krypton; 02-05-2020 at 12:32 PM.
A mutual on twitter met the 3 actors last December. Never thought I'd ever see Routh and Welling together like this. Tyler should have been Jimmy.
Elizabeth Tulloch posted some great support for the Supergirl 100th episode along with a super photo from the event.
Please excuse my poor posting skills—if someone else knows how to post the photo in the thread please do so.
Tulloch has what the kids call “BDE” for sure.
https://www.instagram.com/p/B81oj3Op...d=3s60efc1am19