Could Nightwing beat Batman 5/10?

[Pendaran]

Compared to Bruce, Dick only has an advantage at acrobatics, long-term relationships, and maybe leadership. In a straight fight, Batman is smarter, stronger, faster, tougher, and has a reach advantage.

Random thought: Has Dick ever had a real job, or has he been getting an allowance from Bruce all these years?

He's been a police officer a few times, and one time managed the circus he used to work for. Apparently he also has his own money from circus times in a trust or something.

[Sharpandpointies]

Compared to Bruce, Dick only has an advantage at acrobatics, long-term relationships, and maybe leadership. In a straight fight, Batman is smarter, stronger, faster, tougher, and has a reach advantage.

Not to be all picky...okay, to be picky, 'reach advantage' never really seems to mean anything in comic book fights. Just saying.

[Captain Morgan]

Not to be all picky...okay, to be picky, 'reach advantage' never really seems to mean anything in comic book fights. Just saying.

Yeah it is up there with weight. It just isn't a thing in the genre.

[Shellhead]

Not to be all picky...okay, to be picky, 'reach advantage' never really seems to mean anything in comic book fights. Just saying.

Generally, that's true, except in certain extreme circumstances:



I admit that a comic book fight between Nightwing and Batman will never take reach into account.

[Sharpandpointies]

Generally, that's true, except in certain extreme circumstances:

Well-played, sir.

[Slade1]

Generally, that's true, except in certain extreme circumstances:



I admit that a comic book fight between Nightwing and Batman will never take reach into account.

Sure it can, they can both shoot grappling hooks at each other.

[Valentonis]

Thanks for the responses guys. There is one thing that's still kinda bothering me though, people say that Batman is stronger than Nightwing, but from what I've read Dick doesn't come across as lacking in the strength department:

http://i.imgur.com/4iSPAIy.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Fy8NnIn.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/DzJfTsd.jpg

https://s932.photobucket.com/user/th...eapon.jpg.html (Yea photobucket sucks but its the only place I could find this scan)

I'm not sure how this stacks up to the best Bruce has to offer, so I would appreciate if someone could help me out and tell me where folks are pulling from when they say that Dick loses out in terms of physical strength.

[The Arbiter]

Bruce has punched himself out of a buried casket before. Kicked a tree over. Lifted a 1000+ lbs totem pole off his back. Cracked bullet proof glass with his fists.

Probably a bunch of other stuff im forgetting. Strength isnt the biggest issue when it comes to his chances however, imo.

[Guy Smiley]

So basically a mind controlled Flash operating below capacity shows Bruce can move in bullet time? How much slower was he going according to you?

It's a complete nonsense feat. I'm guessing it's from the same comic that brought us this gem:
Cat_Flash_Fever.jpg

Which is also apparently Poison Ivy using mind control to puppeteer Flashes. The explanation I was given was effectively "Ivy could basically puppeteer them enough to make them run in a straight line, but couldn't herself react fast enough to make them dodge."

Which still can't explain how Bats & Cats and their peak-human-at-best reflexes are accurately punching out dudes who can treat rail gun rounds in flight like convenient hat stands while they go for a coffee.

So yeah, it's the same sort of batwank we've thrown out before as being inconsistent with his presentation as a 'mere human'.

[The Dog]

It's a complete nonsense feat. I'm guessing it's from the same comic that brought us this gem:
Cat_Flash_Fever.jpg

Which is also apparently Poison Ivy using mind control to puppeteer Flashes. The explanation I was given was effectively "Ivy could basically puppeteer them enough to make them run in a straight line, but couldn't herself react fast enough to make them dodge."

Which still can't explain how Bats & Cats and their peak-human-at-best reflexes are accurately punching out dudes who can treat rail gun rounds in flight like convenient hat stands while they go for a coffee.

So yeah, it's the same sort of batwank we've thrown out before as being inconsistent with his presentation as a 'mere human'.

Written by Tom King, same man who wrote "Heroes in Crisis", where Harley Quinn manages to outsmart and escape Batman, Wonder Woman, and Superman. At the same time.

[The MunchKING]

A Flash coming in at high speeds and Batman hitting them anyway would mean Batman is somewhere between lightspeed and ftl.

Unless this was a really, really, really degraded version of the Flash, I guess.

He also grabbed Impulse by the hair and held him aloft when Impulse was running around at super speed panicking.

[Pendaran]

He also grabbed Impulse by the hair and held him aloft when Impulse was running around at super speed panicking.

Do you feel Batman has faster than light reaction time then?

[The MunchKING]

Do you feel Batman has faster than light reaction time then?

Nah, I'm just pointing out this happens a lot with him...