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    Quote Originally Posted by Adekis View Post
    Yeah, Spider-Man's definitely in it for the long haul, no doubt about that. Like I said, I think Spider-Verse is like the best super-hero movie ever made, and he's got tons of fans sitting around from that time period when DC was Superman first-and-foremost, and Marvel was Spidey.

    But I think in terms of current pop culture awareness, with the just massive success of the MCU's Avengers series, the Big Three Avengers have become the Big Three Marvels.

    It's worth saying, I do think it's temporary. I think a lot of their success is tied to the movies, which just aren't going to happen anymore. No more Downey Tony, no more Evans Steve. That'll take a toll on their place as the Top Dogs, and I think it was prescient of Marvel Studios to want Spider-Man to replace them as the Biggest Avengers, even if that didn't really work out for them.
    I think the Avengers Trinity has definitely gained higher prominence thanks to the movies, but I'd still put them equal to Spidey rather then above.

    Captain Marvel and Black Panther are probably on their way to replacing them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superduperman View Post
    We all know DC has their "Big Three". Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman. But who would you consider Marvel's three most recognized characters? Mine would be:

    1) Spider-Man.

    2) Captain America.

    3) Hulk.
    Marvel’s Big Three are Cap, Iron Man and Thor.
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    Marvel just doesn't have a big 3 imo. I think there is actually 7 that you could call Marvels biggest heroes.

    Spider-Man
    Iron man
    Captain America
    Thor
    Hulk
    Wolverine
    Deadpool

    An argument could be made for Star Lord, Rocket, and Groot, but I don't think they are on their level quite yet.

    Give Dr. Strange, Black Panther, and Captain Marvel another movie or two and they could be just as big as well.

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    Also worth nothing is that in Super-Villain Team-Up #14 (October, 1977), “Big Three” is used to refer to Captain America, Iron Man, and Thor.


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    I read somewhere that Spider-Man was the most popular super-hero among children for things like clothes, toys, licensed products, etc. So in my mind it makes sense to include him. Even kids who don't read comics have a Spider-Man toothbrush or something. Captain America makes sense because I've seen him off and on all my life and the shield and suit are pretty recognizable. Same thing with Hulk. With the show in reruns forever his image is forever out there. He even has a well known catch phrase! To me, these three made sense. Now, as time goes on, that may change. Obviously we're in more of an Avengers era. And the X-Men have been gaining cultural traction for the last 20 years or so. So who knows. I just don't see them putting Deadpool on toothbrushes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adekis View Post
    It's definitely true that Thor, Cap and Shellhead were all probably the biggest names on the Avengers, and popular enough in their own right, but I'd argue that first of all, their popularity was mostly limited to those who were already comic fans, as opposed to someone like Spidey or Hulk with their TV shows, and second of all being the Best Avengers didn't mean as much then as it would later on either. Keep in mind, when they started Ultimate Marvel, the reason the team was renamed "The Ultimates" was because the powers-that-be thought the Avengers IP wasn't marketable enough to push the line the way they wanted. Fast forward to 2012, and we're living in a whole different world.
    I mean, did Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman all gain their mainstream trinity statuses the very moment their first comics hit the comic racks, or was it a later piece of media that significantly boosted their mainstream popularity beyond comic fans?

    In Cap's case in particular, who was pretty much part of Marvel's big three of the 40s alongside Namor and Human Torch, he also got a film serial in 1944 and hit television in 1966, and if that wasn't good enough for Cap, then may I ask what would have been?



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    Yeah I don't really think you can ever take Spider-Man out of the "group" especially as even the last twenty years have given him Avengers prominence. It's kind of debatable otherwise with Cap, Wolverine, Hulk, and Iron Man. The X-Men as a whole are high up. I really like Thor but I can't say he's ever topped them for more than the fleeting popularity of a project or comic run.

    But then it's not like Wonder Woman doesn't have to contend for her spot in the DC top 3.
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    I don't think there will be a consensus about the big three that make up the heroic Trinity at Marvel so I will enumerate the big three that are the dark versions of the DC Trinity namely The Dark Phoenix, The Punisher and The Sentry.

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    Its Spiderman .... then the rest are up to debate.

    I just don't see Spidey as debatable, really, even if he was late to the MCU.

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    Spider-Man and Captain America are the two locks I'd say.

    For the last spot, you can pick between Wolverine and Iron Man

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    Spider-Man, Wolverine, Hulk

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    I don't think Marvel has a trinity, fixed or otherwise. Spider-Man is their most popular character, bar none, a situation that is highly unlikely to change. While X-Men and others do maintain high popularity,I think it's a musical chairs situation for who occupies the seats next to Spidey.
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    Marvel has more like a "Big Six"

    Spider-Man
    Hulk
    Wolverine
    Captain America
    Iron Man
    Thor

    The first three of this group are their most popular consistently throughout history, whereas the latter "Big Three" have always been the most recognizable Avengers, but from the 80's until the 2000's the X-Men became the most popular group as opposed to the Avengers. The FF also could make that claim in the 60's and 70's. The MCU has greatly helped push the Avengers trio into major prominence.

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    Marvel would be better categorized under “Four Pillars”:
    • Fantastic Four
    • Spider-Man
    • X-Men
    • Avengers

    I can’t really say IM/Cap/Thor are the Big Three because that leaves us with three gigantic elephants in the room. Also keep in mind that the Avengers were the least popular of the four for the longest time, making it even spottier to call them that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagaton View Post
    Yeah I don't really think you can ever take Spider-Man out of the "group" especially as even the last twenty years have given him Avengers prominence. It's kind of debatable otherwise with Cap, Wolverine, Hulk, and Iron Man. The X-Men as a whole are high up. I really like Thor but I can't say he's ever topped them for more than the fleeting popularity of a project or comic run.

    But then it's not like Wonder Woman doesn't have to contend for her spot in the DC top 3.
    I even question how appropriate it even is to use "top 3" anymore for DC since there have been many heroes that have proven their worth since the 40s, when Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman's (well, and Blackhawk, but that's another matter) solo titles kept on going into the 1980s. It may have been more appropriate then, but then again, then isn't exactly the same as now, and I think that can apply to Marvel too.

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