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    Quote Originally Posted by Intothevoid View Post
    There is no hero stronger in Marvel than Hulk, the strength infinitum and absolute strength stuff is fanmade nonsense. It puts Hercules above Hulk lol, despite Hulk recently overpowering Hercules in strength just by flexing his muscles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainMar-Vell92 of the Kree View Post
    Hello Thor, Silver Surfer, Hyperion, Blue Marvel, Gladiator and Sentry.
    None of them are stronger than Hulk though. Hulk is pretty much Marvels poster boy for physical strength nowadays. Not only does he have some of the best strength feats in all of comics, back in 2008 he got a permanent strength boost that was officially confirmed in the handbooks that states his strength outmatches the rest of the heroes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Intothevoid View Post
    None of them are stronger than Hulk though. Hulk is pretty much Marvels poster boy for physical strength nowadays. Not only does he have some of the best strength feats in all of comics, back in 2008 he got a permanent strength boost that was officially confirmed in the handbooks that states his strength outmatches the rest of the heroes.

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    That's talking about earth heroes and what you saying is not true.

    Not cosmic types,aliens etc.. and that bio is from the past plus there are other bio from marvel that says different things.
    There are some heroes and some other characters stronger then hulk in marvel anyway.

    The strongest character in marvel is the one above all for example.
    Hulk has to get angry to get stronger so he does not have true limitless strength.

    He has potential for limitless strength.
    Big difference.
    There are characters in marvel that have limitless strength already.

    For example Hercules is stronger then thor but thor with hammer is is more powerful then Hercules.
    There is reason why thor power levels go up and down like superman that many folks here and battle forums forget.

    Just take a look at his weaknesses.
    Thor
    Weaknesses
    Thor has no specific weaknesses to a substance or magic.
    Since the events of Thor's hammer being nearly destroyed during his battle with Bor, Thor's life is now tied to his hammer as was Doctor Strange's warning when he repaired it. Thor's powers have fluctuated throughout the years
    and although at one point he was able to stalemate Zeus in a battle years ago, he himself has stated that he can only go against characters of such power with the Odin-Force. Additionally, when Thor succumbs to the "Warrior's Madness" he loses much of his higher cognitive brain function and becomes mentally erratic, unreasonable, unpredictable, savage; acting and reacting in an almost purely instinctual, animalistic and uncontrollable manner.
    https://comicvine.gamespot.com/thor/4005-2268/
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    Hercules is really stronger then hulk for example.Hercules does not potential for limitless because he has already,so hulk right there has limitless with his strength.Herclues,blue marvel,galactus do not have limits.
    What makes Hercules less powerful then hulk is less durability(durability is physical not just strength)less stamina i think,and hulk is faster.
    There are powers hulk has that would make him more powerful then Hercules.
    I think past savage hulk however was equal to Hercules by they way.
    Hercules (Earth-616)

    Godlike Strength: Hercules' principal power is his godlike strength, and he is physically the strongest of all the existing Olympians.As the Olympian god of raw strength, Hercules' strength is unlimited,making him one of the strongest and most powerful heroes in the Marvel Universe.
    https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Hercules_(Earth-616)

    Bruce Banner (Earth-616)

    Unlimited Strength: The Hulk possesses the capacity for essentially limitless physical strength. In effect, upon actually estimating the Hulk's raw potential, the cosmic entity Beyonder stated outright that the Hulk's strength is intrinsically limitless. The Hulk's uttermost potential is indeed unlimited
    Hulk does not have the type of limitless strength or true limitless like Hercules,blue marvel and beyonder for example.
    His type of strength is more like superman's for example.


    Strength Infinitum
    The power to possess continuously increasing strength. Not be confused with Absolute Strength.
    Capabilities
    User has strength that increases over time without limit to how strong they can become and can increase their strength for essentially forever. This makes their potential for strength limitless and immeasurable, allowing them to perform any feat of strength in time. With training users can learn to control their might to helps them in situations that require greater strength.
    Limitations
    Strength increases without limit, but is still finite at any point in time. Absolute Strength can overcome this power.

    Known Users
    Superman/Kal-El (DC Comics); via exposing to yellow sun
    Bruce Banner/Hulk (Marvel Comics)
    Hela (Marvel Cinematic Universe); while on Asgard
    Absolute Strength
    The power to possess a limitless level of strength. Sub-power of Absolute Condition. The highest form of Enhanced Strength.
    Capabilities
    The user is able to go toe-to-toe and even surpass the strongest of beings with nothing but the raw force of their physical blows. Any level of weight the user needs to lift or move is irrelevant as their body can emit limitless amount of force that can repel an object of any mass.
    With this ability, the user could travel massive distances in a single jump, unleash strikes of unparalleled might, obliterate massive life forms with one hit, cause destructive quakes by smashing the ground, shatter planets with their fists, tear through/create space-time anomalies with their strength, etc. It should also be noted that they are immune to all powers that could manipulate, affect or rob them of their strength.

    Known Users
    Hercules (Marvel Comics)
    Adam Bernard Brashear/Blue Marvel (Marvel Comics)
    Beyonder (Marvel Comics)
    Dormammu (Marvel Comics)
    Galan/Galactus (Marvel Comics)
    The One-Above-All (Marvel Comics)
    Thought Robot Superman (DC Comics)
    Soulfire Darkseid (DC Comics)
    Cythonna (DC Comics)
    Yuga Khan (DC Comics)
    Known Objects
    Power Gem (Marvel Comics)
    These definitions make sense to me by the way and it's objective or objective enough for being a fan made website.
    Characters like hercules,blue marvel,galactus already have limitless strength while characters like hulk,thor,wonder woman and superman do not.
    Characters that already have limitless strength should always be stronger and are stronger then characters that are described to have potential for limitless strength like hulk and superman.
    Going by these definitions i would say blue marvel and hercules are the strongest superheroes on marvel earth.
    I say blue marvel is the strongest superhero known.
    I am not sure about merged sentry yet.
    He is not normal sentry so it's possible or not.
    I have to see more.
    Now for the more stronger characters in marvel that would be characters like the one above all and galactus for example.
    It's clear that the strongest character in marvel is The One-Above-All.
    https://powerlisting.fandom.com/wiki/Strength_Infinitum


    https://powerlisting.fandom.com/wiki/Absolute_Strength



    By the way in mcu carol is stronger then hulk,but of course not in comics.
    Carol Danvers stronger than Hulk and Thor - CBR Community
    https://community.cbr.com/showthread...-Hulk-and-Thor

    Captain Marvel Is More Powerful Than Thor says Avengers Directors - MCU & Avengers News
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRCQ0cQxBkg

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    For lists below.
    For some characters it's true and some others it's not.

    Characters Stronger Than The Hulk CBR
    Puny Banner: 15 Characters Stronger Than The Hulk That Marvel Is Holding Back
    Bruce Banner, the Incredible Hulk, is considered by many to be the strongest hero on Earth. At the very least, the Hulk definitely thinks so, constantly yelling that “Hulk is the strongest one there is!”. With gamma-fueled strength, a healing factor, and his notorious ability for getting stronger the madder he becomes, fans generally believe the Hulk is unbeatable.

    The early days of Marvel definitely reinforced the idea; their two strongest heroes were the Hulk and Thor.

    Over the years, the Hulk’s strength has grown to the point where his footsteps create earthquakes. Writers have expanded on Hulk’s powers as they try and reach the upper levels of his strength; the Hulk always turns the tide of any battle.

    Despite the power to lift mountains and crack planets, Marvel is chock full of beings stronger than the Hulk; some can turn him inside out with just a pinky. It’s not pleasant to think about, which is why Marvel likes to hide said characters away, letting fans believe Hulk really is the strongest one around. However, much to chagrin of Hulk fans around the world, today at CBR we’re looking at 15 characters stronger than the Hulk that Marvel would rather you not know exist.

    https://www.cbr.com/marvel-character...than-the-hulk/



    15 Marvel Characters Stronger Than The Hulk
    "Hulk is strongest there is!" That's something the Hulk has proclaimed on many an occasion. It's a pretty bold statement from someone who absolutely isn't the strongest there is. In fact, he's not all that close but, then again, the gamma-powered Avenger never was the brightest bulb in the box.

    Sure, staunch fans of the character will claim that he has unlimited potential strength, but we can only go by what we've seen him do on-panel, and comic books have shown that the Hulk certainly has his limits.

    The very Marvel universe the Hulk inhabits is home to countless characters whose strength is superior to that of the Green Goliath's. In many of those cases, Hulk's strength is emphatically dwarfed by said characters (to the extent that him punching them in the face with all his might would be the equivalent of a flea punching the average human). And we're not just talking about the godlike creator entities in the Marvel universe. The likes of the One-Above-All and the Living Tribunal quite obviously make the Hulk's very existence pale into insignificance, but you definitely don't have to go that far up the power hierarchy to find characters who could out-muscle Bruce Banner's angry alter ego.

    So, with that in mind, let's take a look at some of the characters in the Marvel universe who could put Hulk to the sword in a battle of strength. While the entries in this list vary vastly in terms of their power levels, it will prove that you don't have to look up as far as you might think to find such individuals. Here are 15 Marvel Characters Stronger Than The Hulk.



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    The lists could be including those that are more powerful then hulk when they mean stronger as well.
    For example sentry and silver surfer are not stronger then hulk but they are powerful then hulk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mace11 View Post
    That's talking about earth heroes and what you saying is not true.

    Not cosmic types,aliens etc.. and that bio is from the past plus there are other bio from marvel that says different things.
    There are some heroes and some other characters stronger then hulk in marvel anyway.

    The strongest character in marvel is the one above all for example.
    Hulk has to get angry to get stronger so he does not have true limitless strength.

    He has potential for limitless strength.
    Big difference.
    There are characters in marvel that have limitless strength already.

    For example Hercules is stronger then thor but thor with hammer is is more powerful then Hercules.
    There is reason why thor power levels go up and down like superman that many folks here and battle forums forget.

    Just take a look at his weaknesses.
    Thor
    Weaknesses


    https://comicvine.gamespot.com/thor/4005-2268/
    Literally nothing you just said is correct and all you are doing is linking wiki pages lol.

    Hercules is not stronger than Thor, Hercules has stalemated Thor on 2 different occasions in arm wrestle.

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    And has even stalemated Jane Thor

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    You are spamming this thread with literal nonsense, like fanmade wikis and random blogs. Marvels official page puts Hulk at number 1 as the strongest Marvel super hero

    https://www.marvel.com/articles/comi...arvel-universe

    Also again i am talking about superheros not about abstract entities like the One Above All or even Galactus lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Intothevoid View Post
    Literally nothing you just said is correct and all you are doing is linking wiki pages lol.

    Hercules is not stronger than Thor, Hercules has stalemated Thor on 2 different occasions in arm wrestle.

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    And has even stalemated Jane Thor

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    You are spamming this thread with literal nonsense, like fanmade wikis and random blogs. Marvels official page puts Hulk at number 1 as the strongest Marvel super hero

    https://www.marvel.com/articles/comi...arvel-universe

    Also again i am talking about superheros not about abstract entities like the One Above All or even Galactus lol.
    That Marvel website years ago officially had thor, hulk and blue marvel equal in strength.
    The hulk and thor at the time when the info was written was odinforce thor and worldbreaker hulk.

    That website ranking you posted is non-sense and it's not official.
    It's what they think who is strongest from some folks who do not write the books etc..
    It's fan made from some marvel workers.
    That's all it is.

    Heck on the marvel website before they had the unofficial powergrid and official powegrid that said official but they were not official.
    The marvel handbook is official,not the website and those the handbooks need updating anyway.
    Comicvine and marvel wiki is more accurate and more updated when comes to the powergrid and bio info and they have links to the official handbooks to compare the info.
    It's more updated then the marvel website itself.
    Here s talk about those marvel bio website.

    marvel power grid
    https://comicvine.gamespot.com/marve...wer-grid-2552/

    That link you posted is not done by the way by writers or top marvel editors etc..

    There is no way the thing is stronger then sentry,hercules or she hulk or current she hulk.
    It's been shown hercules and sentry are stronger then the thing for example.



    Just read what others have to say about the rankings in comments section.
    I seen this list before and it's non-sense.
    Top 10 Strongest Heroes in the Marvel Universe
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBloNZwhZFQ

    You are ignoring the other rankings after that and you just wanted to find lists that have hulk on top.
    I get the feeling if captain marvel was number 3 and sentry was number 4 on the unofficial list you would still post the list because hulk is number one on that list.

    What i posted is way closer to the truth and it's common sense etc..

    As for hercules this would example his up and down power levels over the years.
    During his time as a mortal demigod in ancient times and at a much later point, in modern times, when his godhood was stripped by Zeus, Hercules possessed nearly all of the powers he had as a god, but only had them at a greatly reduced level. His durability and stamina suffered the greatest reductions. Strikes and blows he would normally laugh off as full-god could now cause severe injury. Though much tougher than any mere mortal, demigod Hercules also lacked the high-level godly healing factor that would later allow him to very quickly recover from almost any injury. As a demigod, climate conditions such as extremes of cold and heat also had some affect on him, requiring him to adapt to his environment and to adjust his wardrobe accordingly. As a god Hercules has virtually inexhaustible stamina but as a demigod he can eventually become tired and fatigued which requires him to rest. Strangely, Hercules has shown a wide variation of his strength level during his times as a god, a demigod and when completely stripped of his godhood.

    As a demigod, Hercules has at times he seemed as strong as ever, his limitless strength apparently being his birthright, while at other times his strength has appeared reduced similarly to his stamina and durability. The most drastic example of his lower level of strength as a demigod was perhaps the time he battled the Hulk in the wake of Onslaught having seemingly killed most of Earth's heroes, including the Avengers. Normally, as a full-god, Hercules can fight evenly and indefinitely with even an extremely enraged Hulk, but in this instance, as a demigod, when Hercules battled an enraged Hulk, the Hulk nearly beat him to death despite Hercules using his legendary fighting skills in an attempt to even the odds. Whatever the variations of his strength and power levels between being a demigod and a god, Hercules' physical powers, coupled with his fighting skills, were still great enough to enable him to defeat his half-brother, and full-god, Ares as a demigod during this same period of demigod-hood power reduction.
    Hercules is stronger then the thors(jane and odinson) and thor odinson mention it before as well.

    Also again i am talking about superheros not about abstract entities like the One Above All or even Galactus lol.
    You did not make yourself clear the first time by the way.

    Hulk is one of strongest superheroes but not the strongest auperhero.
    The top two strongest superheroes are blue marvel and hercules.
    They have true limitless strength,hulk does not.
    What i posted is correct and it's common sense.
    Note-
    i think hercules stamina looking back on the bio info is greater then hulk's but any way current hulk is more powerful then hercules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mace11 View Post
    That Marvel website years ago officially had thor, hulk and blue marvel equal in strength.
    The hulk and thor at time when the info was written was odinforce thor and worldbreaker hulk

    That website rainking you posted is non-sense and it's not official.It's what they think who is strongest from some folks who do not write the books etc..
    It's fan made from some marvel workers.
    That's all it is.
    Heck on the marvel website before they had unofficial powergrid and official powegrid that said official but they were not official.
    The marvel handbook is official,not the website and those handbooks need updating.
    Comicvine and marvel wiki is more accurate and more updated when comes to the powergrid and bio info they have links to official handbooks to compare the info.
    It's more updated then the marvel website itself.

    That link you posted is not done by the way by writers or top marvel editors etc..

    There is no way the thing is stronger then sentry,hercules or she hulk or current she hulk.
    It's been shown hercules and sentry are stronger then the thing for example.



    Just read what others have to say about the rankings in comments section.
    I seen this list before and it's non-sense.
    Top 10 Strongest Heroes in the Marvel Universe
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBloNZwhZFQ

    You are ignoring the other rankings after that and you just wanted to find lists that have hulk on top at the expense of other characters on the list.
    I get the feeling if captain marvel was number 3 and sentry was number 4 you would still post the list because hulk is number one on that list.

    What i posted is closer to the truth and i going by feats,writers and statements past and current,power source,common sense etc..

    As for hercules this would example his up and down power levels over the years.


    Hercules is stronger then the thors and thor mention it before as well.


    You did not make yourself clear the first time by the way.

    Hulk is one of strongest superheroes but not the strongest auperhero.
    The top two strongest superheroes are blue marvel and hercules.
    They have true limitless strength,hulk does not.

    Note-i think hercules stamina looking back on the bio info is greater then hulk's but any way current hulk is more powerful then hercules.
    Again nothing that you said is actually true, you provide no actual canon evidence for everything you say just fanmade nonsense. You give me random links made by literal random fans and bloggers as evidence but then you try to dismiss Marvels own list lol.

    Thor has NEVER said Hercules is stronger than him and Thor has stalemated Hercules in strength on 2 different occasions as i have shown above and has stalemated Jane Thor on 1 occasion as well. And has been overpowered by Hulk

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    Hulk IS the strongest super hero, he has overpowered Hercules, he has feats of strength above Hercules. I dunno why Blue Marvel is even mentioned his best strength feat is lifting a meteor that size of Arkansas, that's nowhere near even a planetary feat. Never has Blue Marvel been implied to have limitless strength, Hulk has on like half a dozen occasions even though that is still nonsense because no character outside of The One Above All has actual limitless strength.

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    Hulk and Thor and Herc are the strongest whenever the writer decides they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Intothevoid View Post
    Again nothing that you said is actually true
    It's true and i go by common sense,feats,bio info,powersource and writers over the years etc..

    This was from marvel website years ago.
    It was posted in other places.
    They Took it down but it was up there.
    Talking about fanmade, you posted a link that was fanmade.
    Like i said there is no way the thing is stronger then she-hulk or the sentry for example.

    Incalculable Strength: Blue Marvel possesses vast levels of superhuman strength, and is stated to be in the same league as Sentry, Hulk, and Thor strength wise

    Blue marvel and hercules have true limitless strength,not hulk and hulk overpowering hercules is combination of varied things not just strength alone.
    Thor is not stronger then hercules, sentry or blue marvel.
    The marvel wiki and powerlisting got it right for a reason and i say blue marvel is the strongest superhero.

    Here is thor vs herclues.
    Thor could not get out of Hercules grip.




    Hercules lifting the "sky heavens"
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    Quote Originally Posted by mace11 View Post
    It's true and i go by common sense,feats,bio info,powersource and writers over the years etc..

    This was from marvel website years ago.
    It was posted in other places.
    They Took it down but it was up there.
    No it isn't you haven't posted one credible link to anything you said, you haven't posted one actual feat, you just posted random fanmade wikis and blogs, most of which don't even confirm what you were saying lol.
    Again
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    Quote Originally Posted by mace11 View Post
    Blue marvel and hercules have true limitless strength,not hulk and hulk overpowering hercules is combination of varied things not just strength alone.
    When was it mentioned that Blue Marvel and Hercules have true limitless strength? In comics i mean? Not in some random wikis. No according to the script for the comic it was because of strength

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    Quote Originally Posted by mace11 View Post
    Thor is not stronger then hercules, sentry or blue marvel.
    He is stronger than BM going by feats and he is equal to Hercules going by them stalemating each other 2 times already in physical strength.

    Quote Originally Posted by mace11 View Post
    Here is thor vs herclues.
    Thor could not get out of Hercules grip.
    That has nothing to do with strength but SKILL, Thor himself literally tells you that on that very panel that Hercules is better than him in the art of hand-to-hand combat, not that he is physically stronger, much weaker characters can choke out stronger ones. Like this video of a girl putting her boyfriend twice her size in a choke and choking him out



    I already showed you 2 examples of Thor and Hercules stalemating each other in physical strength and 1 example of Hercules stalemating Jane Thor.

    You have yet to show me any feats or any actual concrete evidence from comics as to why Hercules or BM or whoever else is the strongest superhero and why they are stronger than Hulk, who has better feats and has been called the strongest superhero in both the comics and the official marvel databooks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mace11 View Post


    Hercules lifting the "sky heavens"
    Hulk lifting dark matter that weighs infinitely > Hercules holding up the "heavens"

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainMar-Vell92 of the Kree View Post
    I think Hulk fans overestimate the ''the angrier he gets the strongest he becomes'' thing. I don't think a extremely angry Hulk can pwn the likes of Eternity.
    Didn't read Immortal Hulk 25, eh?

    OK ... I kid ... those are ... unique circumstances.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Intothevoid View Post
    Oh god no. I don't think Hulk EVER could come close to someone like Eternity, i don't thing any superhero can. But Eternity is a multiversal entity, just because Hulk can go around lifting the weights of planets and even stars doesn't mean he is anything more than a microbe to someone like Eternity.
    I'm going to be that "um actually" guy: Eternity is not multiversal. Every reality has it's own Eternity. The only "confirmed" multiverse beings I'm aware of are The Living Tribunal, Molecule Man (thanks to the Secret Wars), and of course The One Above All. One might assume that would include The One Below All, but it really hasn't been confirmed yet. There there are things like the Beyonders that exist outside the multiverse ... so I don't know if that counts. I guess they would as I think about it, but during their big fight against TLT they had to simultaneously attack from multiple realities which implies they can only exist in one at a time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Intothevoid View Post
    Thor has NEVER said Hercules is stronger than him and Thor has stalemated Hercules in strength on 2 different occasions as i have shown above and has stalemated Jane Thor on 1 occasion as well. And has been overpowered by Hulk

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    To be fair, context is key here. In this case, the context is VERY similar to the "Jober Thor" complaint this thread is founded on: that issue is the re-debut of Banner Hulk after literal years of having his corpse be the guest villain of the month to be stomped and jobbed by everyone.

    That issue was a statement piece: Hulk is back and Marvel is making him the powerhouse he used to be.

    I'm all for a Hulk power-level debate, and I actually believe he is basically the strongest non-cosmic being in the Marvel universe (cross into Galactus realms and he obviously falls off), but I also think it's important to keep the context of the story in mind when posting panels. On any other day the Hulk is _not_ shrugging off Thor AND Hercules like they were mere toddlers. This was a statement issue.

    ... oh and I loved it.

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