"Sir, does this mean that Ann Margret's not coming?"
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"One of the maddening but beautiful things about comics is that you have to give characters a sense of change without changing them so much that they violate the essence of who they are." ~ Ann Nocenti, Chris Claremont's X-Men.
"Sir, does this mean that Ann Margret's not coming?"
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"One of the maddening but beautiful things about comics is that you have to give characters a sense of change without changing them so much that they violate the essence of who they are." ~ Ann Nocenti, Chris Claremont's X-Men.
What's your take on Surfer "sampling, synthesizing and supercharging the odin force"?
I suppose I'm driving at, it occurs to me, one of the most formidable energy and matter manipulators in the 616 has almost zero feats for transforming energy from one type to the next.
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"Sir, does this mean that Ann Margret's not coming?"
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"One of the maddening but beautiful things about comics is that you have to give characters a sense of change without changing them so much that they violate the essence of who they are." ~ Ann Nocenti, Chris Claremont's X-Men.
He's added Firelords energy bolts to his own energy, drained the Hulk of gamma, ripped open singularities out of thin air and turned off gravity while /sleeping/ before.
He's a potent energy manipulator just fine.
He's also done bizarre things like turn his own body into snow despite the vast energies it contains. Note: I don't think Surfer is MADE of energy like Bob sometimes is, just that he has plenty of it residing within him. Like a battery.
That and Bob seems to start off in a quasi-organic matter state as a baseline with his vast energies lurking below the surface. He is not immune to a sufficiently talented matter manipulator scattering him. It just won't stick. It won't even work at all if he sees it coming - he can shut it down. I personally don't think Norrin could beat him in any meaningful way in a comic. But a 10-count on Rumbles doesn't seem too crazy imo.
Again, this is all moot if Sentry can act in a disembodied state beyond just trying to reconstitute some form of body - void body or otherwise - which maybe he totally can.
"At the end of the day, Arby is a pretty prolific poster proposing a plurality of proper posts for us."
- big_adventure
But if we say Bob is a big pile of energy, are there feats for Surfer converting a mass of energy that large into say a twinkie (ghost busters reference intended).
Edit, or from one type of energy to a different form of energy even?
I'm under the assumption you and Pen know more about the Sentry being more defined as a mass of energy. I dont recall that, but it has been a stretch since I read his stuff.He's also done bizarre things like turn his own body into snow despite the vast energies it contains. Note: I don't think Surfer is MADE of energy like Bob sometimes is, just that he has plenty of it residing within him. Like a battery.
I see. Because Norrin is vastly faster.That and Bob seems to start off in a quasi-organic matter state as a baseline with his vast energies lurking below the surface. He is not immune to a sufficiently talented matter manipulator scattering him. It just won't stick. It won't even work at all if he sees it coming - he can shut it down. I personally don't think Norrin could beat him in any meaningful way in a comic. But a 10-count on Rumbles doesn't seem too crazy imo.
Not sure if he can. Bob's subsequent reconstitution seemed involuntary. Honestly, the Sentry is very difficult for me to pin down.Again, this is all moot if Sentry can act in a disembodied state beyond just trying to reconstitute some form of body - void body or otherwise - which maybe he totally can.
"Sir, does this mean that Ann Margret's not coming?"
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"One of the maddening but beautiful things about comics is that you have to give characters a sense of change without changing them so much that they violate the essence of who they are." ~ Ann Nocenti, Chris Claremont's X-Men.
I'm not saying he needs to make Bob into a new thing. Even if restructuring that energy is beyond his skills, he should still be able to locate and break down the baseline molecules/energy at the atomic level and just leave it in its scattered state.
Like, he can move a Class 100 level of energy around (the Hulk) without strain or effort and put it into different places and utilize it for new purposes. Pulling energy around is not a new thing for him. We know he can break down and restructure normal matter/molecules pretty easily and we know he can shift/absorb/move vast quantities of energy around as well. Bob is either one or the other of these things and has been shown to be scattered by potent enough manipulators if caught off guard - which Norrins blitz would effectively replicate imo.
"At the end of the day, Arby is a pretty prolific poster proposing a plurality of proper posts for us."
- big_adventure
Those aren't really comparable depths of energy ultimately.Like, he can move a Class 100 level of energy around (the Hulk) without strain or effort and put it into different places and utilize it for new purposes.
True, but relatively speaking Norrin didn't particularly exert himself on the Hulk thing. It was presented as a pretty simple action.
Mileage might totally vary here, and again, big_adventure might have a point in saying Owen has more oomph then Surfer to have done what he did.
"At the end of the day, Arby is a pretty prolific poster proposing a plurality of proper posts for us."
- big_adventure
Also, this totally confirms my suspicions that you love the Sentry as a character and a concept ;P
"At the end of the day, Arby is a pretty prolific poster proposing a plurality of proper posts for us."
- big_adventure
Then again, there's also the Court of Owls.
I am depressingly spoiled for choice here ;p