Quote Originally Posted by Cronus View Post
Isnt there an old issue of Avengers where Owen enlists Surfers help in focusing his power? Obviously, in terms of raw, brute control over molecular composition, Owen is far and away more powerful. But perhaps early depictions of Surfer and Owen's fine tunes control over molecules suggests Norrin to be superior. After all, Norrin transmuted Quasimodo into living flesh and back again, as well as choked an entire planet with vegetative growth...maybe the power cosmic gives the Surfer some intuitive ability that Owen initially lacked.
Maybe in Avengers #215. I barely remember them meeting in that issue, but I barely remember that second Shooter run on Avengers because I never felt like re-reading any of the issues.