I remember that one. Didn't take long before what you mentioned happened indeed...
It came to a point a poster of that crowd openly admitted posting in that thread only to make fun of the people's opinions s/he disagreed with... Open trolling. Very mature.
Bold assertion, if I ever saw any.
You know, you keep saying stuff like that but when people ask you to illustrate and give examples of such instances, you keep dodging and drape yourself immediately behind the curtain of self-righteousness...
I'm still waiting for you to point who here asked anyone to stop reading the books, or who here demanded people ceased to like them either... You make that kind of proclamation, you have to back it up with actual quotes.
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"The means are as important as the end - we have to do this right or not at all.
Anything less negates every belief we've ever had, every sacrifice we've ever made."
"Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely."
"No justice, no peace."
I loved HOXPOX(minus 1 issue), and I think so far X-Men is pretty underwhelming. Seems like some people are trying to say that the people who don't like this book are all those who hate Hickman and/or the new status quo, and that's just not true.
Two things:
1: Krakoa is in a symbiotic realtionship with its mutant inhabitants...interesting. I do love how HiX-Man has managed to address the island's mutant nature and "resolve" it.
2: Selene is part of the resolution team. (I do hope we get to see her in another capacity other than a nursemaid, though)
Lord Ewing *Praise His name! Uplift Him in song!* Your divine works will be remembered and glorified in worship for all eternity. Amen!
Frankly, I do hate a lot of Hickman's writing and direction. A lot of it is 'let's do obvious bad idea, and wait for it to blow up in one of the books in 6 months'. I do post a bit of negativity on the weekly issue pages because I'm don't like the writing that's going on now. Its cathartic, and a lot healthier than just bottling it up and stewing.
But nobody is actively ruining anyone's fun, or trying to say you're terrible or stupid or whatever for liking this. If seeing that people don't like what's going on and are saying why they don't like it is enough to rain on your parade, then that's your problem.
For this issue and run of X-men specifically, its disappointing. I normally love monster of the week stuff, but such big concepts are getting introduced each issue and dropped/ignored the next, its bizarre. Most series would kill to last 12 issues, and Hickman had that just for worldbuilding. He shouldn't need more
Yeah.
This was bound to happen.
Once more - criticism is fine.
However, constant criticism, when obstinately born, is not productive.
Productive in this case meaning leading to good conversations worth reading and having.
When someone chooses to engage in constant negative criticism from a place of stubbornness - no argument will convince, and no consolation will soothe.
What value can a conversation with a person in this mindset have?
Best case scenario, that person gets talked down the ledge.
But by then, the thread is hijacked and the posters have become therapists.
At a certain point, as fans and consumers, we can observe when a book we are patronizing is not going in the direction we want.
This can be for any reason, regardless of worthiness.
We can and should voice our criticism, and the reasoning behind it.
However, if our feelings escalate to the point where we are willing to engage in constant, inconsolable criticism, is it not better for all to drop that book and move on?
Why would you subject yourself to dwelling in a book you hate?
Why would you choose to bog down conversation after conversation, week after week, month after month, with the same constant negative feedback?
You eschew echo chambers for a reason.
Why would you suggest that I create my own?
Do you think my position betrays some kind of weakness to stomach dissent?
I can assure you, it does not.
As you noted, I've been on these forums for a long time.
I've seen so many threads derailed, and so many people arguing meaninglessly in circles until exhaustion forces capitulation or silence.
It bores me. Makes me weary.
It even saddens me a little - the wasted potential.
I think that by cutting down on this specific behavior, the boards can be a better place.
Is that naive of me? Are my observations misguided?
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they never once said she wasnt beautiful. they commented on her looking like a s word and that her p word stinks. seeing as though the elderly woman who made the comment had fresh oxygen supply I would think she had a more keen sense of smell. simply put miss Emma need to invest in some summers eve products. okay.
lmfao lolololol me either and Emma couldnt come back with a snide remark because stank p-word s-word h-word knows that she wasnt lying. lolololol
and yassss I love your shade. that born was epic!!!
agreed boo.
yes to all of this.
ALL HAIL THE HADARI YAO, THE OMEGA'S OMEGA, BEYOND OMEGA, THE VOICE OF SOL!!!! NOW AGAIN THE ONE TRUE AND ONLY GODDESS OF THE X-MEN AS CLAREMONT INTENDED!!!!!
Just to point this out...
It's not really a "Straight Up Fallacy" when things are being created out of thin air that have no basis in anything on the page as an attempt to be something like "Critical".
Which I have absolutely seen happen more than once.
Even seen that sort of thing in "Appreciation..." threads where it is pretty specifically off-limits.
I guess these botanical grannies are the closest we'll ever get to a Poison Ivy/Emma Frost crossover.
Seeing the some postes celebrating "Emma Stinks" moment is hilarious to me. God bless those souls.
Whatever sabertooth didn't smell anything. So, it was just old girls taunting Emma.