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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Weapon View Post
    I don't think Ito shares their modern liberalism. Their plan allows him to flex his mad scientist muscles and that's what he's on board for.
    Yeah, he's in it for his experiments and what he can achieve with them more or less.
    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Z View Post
    At no point in the series have Sportsmaster and Tigress displayed concern for anything other than themselves and their daughter (to be specific, what they want their daughter to be). There's a reason Bowin called them out for being so sadistic in this episode, which they ended up proving when they killed her over an insult. Brainwave killed his own son and is dead set on blaming everyone but himself for his decision and by the admission of the resident telepath, Ito views Cindy as more of an experiment - and a failed one at that - than a daughter. And the Gambler doesn't have any kids.
    That we know of. I wouldn't be surprised to see Hazard pop up when we get a new ISA with the other kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnak View Post
    It is kind of hard to believe that Ito a WWII Japanese fascist is now a perfect modern liberal. He really should have a plan of his own to kill the others except for Brainwave if he can figure out a control mechanism and rule the world.
    The Japanese werent fascist, they were imperialist who beleived they had a better plan for the world than other societies because they beleived they followed the guidance of the devine. They followed what they believed was the emperors decree as they believed he had a devine right to rule. What most didnt know was that factions in the military had interperated what they beleived the Emperor wanted and had decieved the people of Japan into following their military goals.

    The military had been given the right to nominate the army minister in 1900 and it was revoked in 1913 and reinstated in the 30s. This was over concerns irresponsible politicians would abuse the power of control of the military. Instead it meant factions within the military guided and controlled state policy and what was portrayed as the will of the emperor

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Z View Post
    At no point in the series have Sportsmaster and Tigress displayed concern for anything other than themselves and their daughter (to be specific, what they want their daughter to be). There's a reason Bowin called them out for being so sadistic in this episode, which they ended up proving when they killed her over an insult. Brainwave killed his own son and is dead set on blaming everyone but himself for his decision and by the admission of the resident telepath, Ito views Cindy as more of an experiment - and a failed one at that - than a daughter. And the Gambler doesn't have any kids.
    Sportsmaster wants the best for the members of his gym and their physical health, and both Tigress and Sportsmaster insisted that Gambler actually pick up his trash and not liter.

    They're wackjobs sure, but they do want what they see as a 'better world'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beatboks View Post
    Loved this episode.


    2. The part of Henry Jnr absorbed by Snr fights him from within and protects Pat, Justinnand Barb while the JSA fight the rest of the ISA (who are now down a Fiddler as well as a Wizard and Sportsmaster has a masty injury to his back that he said is still hurting) while BW Snr fights the aspect of his Son inside him.
    I called that a week ago. If they aren't bringing him back (I guess it's still possible, but seems unlikely), that would a nice way to have him beat his father as he did in the comics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamFTF View Post
    Taking a power that's been associated with a Black character for approximately 20 years now in the comics and passing over that character in order to give it to a white character who previously never had it when there's a shortage of Black superheroes that are known to the public is an absolute dick move.
    It will probably still be Jakeem, but even if he was introduced nearly 20 years ago, he's had very little presence in that time. But I do see Mike being more interested in working alongside his dad now -- behind the scenes.

    I don't know if anyone discussed this before, but Pat/Stripesy was very strong in the comics. I'm sure he would have squashed Sportsmaster. I can see why they didn't go that route, but even though Stripesy was the 'sidekick', he was the muscle -- Sylvester was the brains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnak View Post
    It is kind of hard to believe that Ito a WWII Japanese fascist is now a perfect modern liberal. He really should have a plan of his own to kill the others except for Brainwave if he can figure out a control mechanism and rule the world.
    I agree. His role seems kinda questionable given his previous appearances. And we never did a get a payoff for him making use of the Wizard's body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beatboks View Post
    The Japanese werent fascist, they were imperialist who beleived they had a better plan for the world than other societies because they beleived they followed the guidance of the devine. They followed what they believed was the emperors decree as they believed he had a devine right to rule. What most didnt know was that factions in the military had interperated what they beleived the Emperor wanted and had decieved the people of Japan into following their military goals.

    The military had been given the right to nominate the army minister in 1900 and it was revoked in 1913 and reinstated in the 30s. This was over concerns irresponsible politicians would abuse the power of control of the military. Instead it meant factions within the military guided and controlled state policy and what was portrayed as the will of the emperor
    Imperialism is a foreign policy not a form of government see the Roman, British and many other empires. For that matter both the Nazis and Italian fascists were also imperialists.

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    So you build a secret evil lair. But you take the extra time to make it look like a Hollywood version of a dungeon with gas torch light and faux stone walls?
    And you are a Japanese war criminal, not an evil British Lord.
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    Should have killed Tigress and Sportsmaster when they were down. This isn't a game of bean bag but the usual superhero wussy nonsense. Also if Pat and Barbara bought a couple of 1911s and practiced a bit, they could have taken them down in the beginning. A handheld crossbow is not an impressive weapon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Smith View Post
    Should have killed Tigress and Sportsmaster when they were down. This isn't a game of bean bag but the usual superhero wussy nonsense. Also if Pat and Barbara bought a couple of 1911s and practiced a bit, they could have taken them down in the beginning. A handheld crossbow is not an impressive weapon.
    I get leaving Tigress because they needed to get the hell out of there. But Pat should have at least shattered Sportsmaster's knees with his big ass wrench while he was down.
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    I still wonder a few things going into next season and what not;
    Will Tigress end up paralyzed like in the comics?
    Will Artemis end up a hero, or more a villain?
    Will Mike become a member of the Justice Society? Perhaps as the new STRIPE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackalope89 View Post
    Will Mike become a member of the Justice Society? Perhaps as the new STRIPE?
    If the CW can't afford Luke Wilson for next season I see this happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackalope89 View Post
    Will Mike become a member of the Justice Society? Perhaps as the new STRIPE?
    Until last night's episode, he looked like he was headed towards the Injustice Society instead.
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    Beth's goggles are really becoming a sore point. This character needs a complete overhaul if she's to leave any impresson beyond being another annoying CW/DC nerd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcekada View Post
    Beth's goggles are really becoming a sore point. This character needs a complete overhaul if she's to leave any impresson beyond being another annoying CW/DC nerd.
    The AI in the goggles are apparently her best friend and none of the other CW tech nerds had that.

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