EPISODE 9 box office expectations?

[Buried Alien]

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TELL ME these guys aren't as numerous as they seem on YouTube, Facebook, and elsewhere on social media. TELL ME that they might be several hundred thousand strong, but that's set against tens of millions who disagree.

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[thwhtGuardian]

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TELL ME these guys aren't as numerous as they seem on YouTube, Facebook, and elsewhere on social media. TELL ME that they might be several hundred thousand strong, but that's set against tens of millions who disagree.

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They are a small minority, especially when compared to the number of people in the general audience. It's best not to pay attention to that kind of trash.

[AJBopp]

TELL ME these guys aren't as numerous as they seem on YouTube, Facebook, and elsewhere on social media. TELL ME that they might be several hundred thousand strong, but that's set against tens of millions who disagree.

These guys aren't as numerous as they seem on YouTube, Facebook, and everywhere else on social media. I would think that's beyond debate, but apparently not. I think several hundred thousand strong is a great exaggeration. These guys aren't even a fraction of a fraction of people who will boycott the movie (I'm one of them who will boycott, by the way, just as I was with the last one).

The whole argument is silly. It's like saying Clone Wars will flop because of Jar Jar Binks.

What makes me most upset so far is the marketing that the movie is the end, the final word in the movie series, when it's no such thing

[WillieMorgan]

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TELL ME that they might be several hundred thousand strong, but that's set against tens of millions who disagree.

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I think both sides of that equation are vastly overstated to be honest. This all feels like a mountain being made out of a proverbial molehill to me. And I utterly loathe Disney SW.

I agree that the audience for the new SW movie will run into the tens of millions. A huge chunk of that are just casual movie-goers though, not die hard SW fans. They've recently been to watch that Frozen film and SW is just the next franchise to 'tick off' so to speak. They have no perception or awareness of this split in the SW fandom and would probably find the whole thing tedious and confusing. This is a typical example of social media being nowhere near as representative of the real world as it wishes it was.

Similarly, and for the same reasons as above, I doubt that the Fandom Menace can boast numbers in the hundreds of thousands. I'm not as opposed to these people as other fans seem to be but am certainly not a member of the group. Like I said earlier in the thread I got a good kick out of Captain Marvel, a movie that they've had in their cross-hairs since before it was even released. I'll decide what entertainment I'm allowed to enjoy, not leave it up to someone else. People would do well to do the same thing and not let these various cliques get to them.

For the record, my disdain for Disney SW is not for Fandom Menace-type reasons. The SW franchise hasn't received a penny from me since the takeover and never will. The hugely divisive The Last Jedi movie that seems to be the major offender for many? Never even seen it and don't care to.

[WebLurker]

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TELL ME these guys aren't as numerous as they seem on YouTube, Facebook, and elsewhere on social media. TELL ME that they might be several hundred thousand strong, but that's set against tens of millions who disagree.

Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)

Sure; they aren't as numerous as they seem on YouTube, Facebook, and elsewhere on social media. They might be several hundred thousand strong, but that's set against tens of millions who disagree.

Those YouTube channels gather like-minded people, but, as can be seen by observing the success rate of the stuff they rail against, the are not representative of anything other then a small faction. Rise of Skywalker may or may not be good, but the angry online fans who hate what Disney has done, that it's no longer an ostensible white guys only club, and or whatever, aren't going to do it any harm.

(Mike Zeroh, incidentally, has a reputation of not being a credible source and spreading conspiracy theories, so you can rest easy in not believing anything he says.)

[Anthony W]

Rise of Skywalker may or may not be good, but the angry online fans who hate what Disney has done, that it's no longer an ostensible white guys only club,

Yeah, now it's a white guys and girls only club. Finn and Poe were handled badly. The only characters coming out of this trilogy doing well are Rey and Kylo after he gets his redemption arc Rogue One was also the story of a white girl, of course her sidekick got a show but not a movie. Yeah, The Mandalorian is good, but Pedro only voices him. The majority of the work is done by ....wait for it...Brendan Wayne. He is the grandson of John Wayne.

Progress!

[abulafia]

this obsession with race&representation makes me so sad. as a youth, on of my favorite books was a compendium of tales from around the world.
i read tales from many cultural groups from around the world and never did i wonder, nah, they ain´t like me, why should i care about this story.
it is either a good or a bad story. it may vary, but what you make out of it, is up to you.
do you have a positive approach in general?
stories come from a certain perspective. modern EVERYBODY HAS TO BE REPRESENTED IS A MARKETING TOOL AND IS CANCER TO ART
just saying

ofc RoS will make big money. it is marketed as the last of the saga. it is xmas and people will go see it. will it stand the test of time? time will tell

[TriggerWarning]

Better than Last Jedi because it likely won't be a disappointing crapfest like it was but not as good as Force Awakens because the hype isn't as high and the bad taste of Last Jedi is still present.

[TriggerWarning]

Finn and Poe were handled badly.

This is what a lot of triggered race and gender baiters don't get about those of us who bash Last Jedi.

I love Finn's character. The whole idea of a Stormtrooper defecting in Force Awakens was great and I loved Finn's character arc in Force Awakens. Especially how by the end of the movie he seemed to have fully committed to his friends and the rebellion. Then Last Jedi pisses all over that character development as if it never happened by having him try to run away again. Force Awakens already covered that angle and Finn came back so why do it again. Then the rest of the movie parts with him were just meaningless filler on Casino Planet.

I didn't like Rose's character but that was just because she got sent with Finn on his pointless redo character arc and meaningless Casino Planet. In a better written story and with a plot line that was actually meaningful she would have been fine.

Poe was cool in Force Awakens but it was hard to come out of Last Jedi without thinking he was anything but a colossal douchebag.

Rey was the only character who didn't get tarnished by Last Jedi. I love Rey by the way and I'll defend her against Mary Sue claims all day long by firing back with Luke who trained all of two minutes with Ben and 1-2 days with Yoda.

It was never their race or gender that made many of us hate these character or their arcs in Last Jedi, it was the bad writing and character assassination done on them by Last Jedi.

I'm really hoping that Finn and Poe can be redeemed in Rise of Skywalker.

[MASTER-OF-SUPRISE]

My guess is that it will start big and then fade to average. Honestly presales don't really mean that much when you're banking on people to come back. Off topic of course Box office numbers don't mean jack when it comes to quality. I hope the movie is good but I have big doubts. Getting back on topic My guess is that it'll be around the millionish.

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Outside of the constant whiners on YouTube and social media, I think theres a general cooling of interest in the sequel trilogy. According to the Collider guys, TROS is tracking lower than Last Jedi and The Force Awakens.

It's not really surprising considering the fact that the Last Jedi pretty much wrapped up the series and closed some character threads (some of which I have serious problems with).

[WebLurker]

Yeah, now it's a white guys and girls only club.

Except its not.

Finn and Poe were handled badly.

How so?

The only characters coming out of this trilogy doing well are Rey and Kylo after he gets his redemption arc

Since when is Kylo getting redemption, not the least of which the movies have so far done nothing but make him more and more the big bad.

Rogue One was also the story of a white girl, of course her sidekick got a show but not a movie.

Rouge One had an international cast and a large number of non-white characters. Consider where we were in 1977.

Yeah, The Mandalorian is good, but Pedro only voices him. The majority of the work is done by ....wait for it...Brendan Wayne. He is the grandson of John Wayne.

Progress!

The past two cartoons have had diverse casts (both in terms of the characters and the actors). The tie-in books have been including more non-WASP characters in major roles. The most popular Star Wars comic book character to date is an Asian lesbian. Star Wars has been making progress, and that has made certain fans online quite angry.