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    Quote Originally Posted by ExodusCloak View Post
    I don't believe Emma is denying sexism does not exist. I believe it's Emma's way of saying she isn't the victim in this case Wyngarde and Shaw are because she turns the table on them.

    The ending alludes that they're victims of being stuck playing perpetual wicked games.
    No, it’s not a literal denial but it’s a dismissal of a pervasive systemic issue women and girls who don’t have world class psychic powers have to face all the time. Again, all this just to justify putting her in a corset to satisfy the male gaze. It’s dripping tone deafness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Quiet Councilor View Post
    No, it’s not a literal denial but it’s a dismissal of a pervasive systemic issue woman and girls who don’t have world class psychic powers have to face all the time. Again, all this just to justify putting her in a corset to satisfy the male gaze. It’s dripping tone deafness.
    It's not a dismissal, Emma's method of combating it is a literal acknowledgement. Whether her way is misguided or not that isn't the correct reading of it

    Also if anyone wants an in your face story see Mandrill vs Emma

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExodusCloak View Post
    It's not a dismissal, Emma's method of combating it is a literal acknowledgement. Whether her way is misguided or not that isn't the correct reading of it

    Also if anyone wants an in your face story see Mandrill vs Emma
    It IS a dismissal. Read it again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Quiet Councilor View Post
    It IS a dismissal. Read it again.
    It's not a dismissal of sexism. It's a dismissal of that ninny's approach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Quiet Councilor View Post
    No, itís not a literal denial but itís a dismissal of a pervasive systemic issue women and girls who donít have world class psychic powers have to face all the time. Again, all this just to justify putting her in a corset to satisfy the male gaze. Itís dripping tone deafness.
    Isn't Storm a nudist lol. Jean had to shame her into covering up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maestroneto View Post
    Isn't Storm a nudist lol. Jean had to shame her into covering up.
    Jean didn't shamed, just spoke that on our society people have to walk around with clothes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maestroneto View Post
    Isn't Storm a nudist lol. Jean had to shame her into covering up.
    LOL this made me laugh out loud because i thought even nude other women have still shown more. Thank goodness for long fluffy hair. lol
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    How many threads does spirit have to derail before they get banned?

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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    Jean didn't shamed, just spoke that on our society people have to walk around with clothes.
    The phrasing of this needs work, 'our society'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maestroneto View Post
    Isn't Storm a nudist lol. Jean had to shame her into covering up.
    How is Storm’s nudism relevant? Few artists outside of Frank Cho have used that to create JO material for incels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    Jean didn't shamed, just spoke that on our society people have to walk around with clothes.
    How come nightcrawler not getting called out for rushing to towel her when she just wanted to skinny dip. Or Xavier for mentioning it to Moira.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExodusCloak View Post
    It's not a dismissal of sexism. It's a dismissal of that ninny's approach.
    “Sexism is what you make it” IS dismissive of sexism as a cultural, systemic issue. It’s just a tone deaf justification of cheesecake.

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    Storm and Psylocke wore less clothes then Emma once she was Whedonised and Gen X if you want to talk about Cheesecake
    Last edited by ExodusCloak; 12-09-2019 at 04:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Quiet Councilor View Post
    “Sexism is what you make it” IS dismissive of sexism as a cultural, systemic issue.
    No its not a dismissal of sexism its a dismissal of the approach to counter it. Emma's approach is more aggressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExodusCloak View Post
    It's not a dismissal, Emma's method of combating it is a literal acknowledgement. Whether her way is misguided or not that isn't the correct reading of it

    Also if anyone wants an in your face story see Mandrill vs Emma
    Feminists are trying to change the society for the benefit of all women.
    I haven't read all Emma's stuff but I don't think she ever was concerned by the situation of all womenÖ
    When she criticized the other women's attitude, she blamed her for not being like her, she didn't say the women had the right to be the way they wanted.
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