Iceman and Human Torch vs Firestorm and Captain Cold

[Slade1]

616 vs Post crisis versions.

[Captain Morgan]

Huh. If anyone can perma kill Iceman, it is probably Ronnie/Jason/Doc whoever else is in there this week. So it seems like it comes down to if he can survive long enough to do so.

[Desmark]

Isn't Iceman's body still organic even after transforming into ice? So Firestorm will not be able to affect him. Captain Cold doesn't make any difference here imo. So unless Firestorm frags the area first which takes out both the Torch and Bobby team DC is screwed.

[master of read]

depending on who's running things with firestorm, he can, you know, unmake bobby or something along those lines.

[TheRay]

Would Captain Cold and Iceman just neutralize each other here or is Cold simply no match?

[Nik Hasta]

Would Captain Cold and Iceman just neutralize each other here or is Cold simply no match?

Cold is quite firmly out of his depth against Bobby.

He don't want none of that.

I agree with Morgan's assessment. Firestorm has enough wild feats of esoteric transmutation to feasibly take down Bobby but I'm not sure if he's got the defences to hold out while he does it.

[Desmark]

depending on who's running things with firestorm, he can, you know, unmake bobby or something along those lines.

Well he did transform sandy into glass so perhaps transmuting Bobby may not present a problem.

[Speed Force League Unlimited]

616 vs Post crisis versions.

So Captain Cold still uses his gun, Human Torch can easily turn around and melt his gun. I know the Captain can tangle with the Flash, but there is no way he should be able to dance around one of the most powerful superheroes ever conceived.

Between freeze-face and Firestorm I don't know who would win.