Empyre (2020)

[Snoop Dogg]

So did people like Empyre in the end? Certainly a lot of momentum was broken because of Covid-19 but now that it is all done and put away, what did people think of the event?

the pacing was a little too fast to explore some of its ideas, but overall it was a success

[FFJamie94]

So did people like Empyre in the end? Certainly a lot of momentum was broken because of Covid-19 but now that it is all done and put away, what did people think of the event?

It was... okay. The prologue issues and the epilogue issues are the best things about the event.
It felt like it just happened and now it’s over, Marvel want to move on.

I do wonder how it goes into king in black however

[Huntsman Spider]

It was... okay. The prologue issues and the epilogue issues are the best things about the event.
It felt like it just happened and now it’s over, Marvel want to move on.

I do wonder how it goes into king in black however

We'll find out in Web of Venom: Empyre's End, I suppose.

[LordMikel]

So did people like Empyre in the end? Certainly a lot of momentum was broken because of Covid-19 but now that it is all done and put away, what did people think of the event?

Overall I did enjoy it.

I did feel like Tony did when they decided to make the Cotati evil. Big betrayal, but once I got over that, it was fairly decent.

I do agree with FFJamie94. It happened, its over, and Marvel wants to move on. Some series I have regretted reading and wish I never had. This one is good, but not top 3 good.

[Tony Stark]

So did people like Empyre in the end? Certainly a lot of momentum was broken because of Covid-19 but now that it is all done and put away, what did people think of the event?

I really enjoyed it. Writing and art were on point. Like most have said they should have produced a few more tie ins, but I enjoyed it and would buy it again. Also I really liked the Avengers issue #0 and Prologue. To me it was a very good way to start and end it for the Avengers.

[Digifiend]

Yeah, Empyre was a decent event, but definitely harmed by the loss of the Thor and Invasion of Wakanda tie-ins.

[Shadowcat]

I’m most upset for the loss of the Squadron Supreme and Union tie-ins, but it’s been the best crossover in quite some time. I just wish the Avengers mini roster, plus Carol and Jan, were the regular all a part of the Avengers.

[Digifiend]

You're still getting the Union, they retooled it so they're fighting symbiotes instead of Cotati.

[Shadowcat]

You're still getting the Union, they retooled it so they're fighting symbiotes instead of Cotati.

Oh, I know. I’m just impatient. I wanted them during Empyre lol.

[FFJamie94]

Sadly, the fact that tie-ins can be retooled for another event goes to show just how disposable the tie-ins are.
I'm also starting to believe that Empyre wasn't the big shattering event that Marvel thought it would be, with even Ewing's Guardians run saying "You can just google what happened".

Again, I liked Empyre, but I think i'll be seen as less of an event and more of a mini series that featured an important arc. I get the feeling King in Black is what Marvel are gambling on right now. Especially seeing how Venom is their dark horse book at the moment.

[Digifiend]

That's why I mentioned Thor and Invasion. Those two shouldn't have been disposable as their plot points came up in the main book. The same isn't true for Stormranger, Squadron Supreme, and The Union.

[sifighter]

So did people like Empyre in the end? Certainly a lot of momentum was broken because of Covid-19 but now that it is all done and put away, what did people think of the event?

I am biased, because I will gladly admit that I am a big fan of the Young Avengers and Al Ewing's New Avengers run, so to see that we got follow up on both Hulklings origin story and Ewing giving him the cosmic sword was amazing. I also like that yes it will have a bigger overall impact on books like Guardians of the Galaxy and SWORD. So I got to see cool follow up on stories I like and I got to see the wedding of Wiccan and Hulkling. Big win for me.

However it also kind of reasserted something to me that I have felt since maybe Avengers vs X-men, which is the Avengers got to stop butting into things on their own. I mean how many times does this make that Tony stark during an event made things worse or that they were ultimately wrong on what would happen. I was kind of on Brand's side at the end of the epilogue

[Huntsman Spider]

I am biased, because I will gladly admit that I am a big fan of the Young Avengers and Al Ewing's New Avengers run, so to see that we got follow up on both Hulklings origin story and Ewing giving him the cosmic sword was amazing. I also like that yes it will have a bigger overall impact on books like Guardians of the Galaxy and SWORD. So I got to see cool follow up on stories I like and I got to see the wedding of Wiccan and Hulkling. Big win for me.

However it also kind of reasserted something to me that I have felt since maybe Avengers vs X-men, which is the Avengers got to stop butting into things on their own. I mean how many times does this make that Tony stark during an event made things worse or that they were ultimately wrong on what would happen. I was kind of on Brand's side at the end of the epilogue

Same here. The Avengers' lack of consideration for their allies' input is definitely a problem, and it's the kind of thing that's precipitated some of the worst events in Marvel's history, so I'd recommend they get a handle on themselves quickly before they kick off another s***storm of an event.

[Tony Stark]

Same here. The Avengers' lack of consideration for their allies' input is definitely a problem, and it's the kind of thing that's precipitated some of the worst events in Marvel's history, so I'd recommend they get a handle on themselves quickly before they kick off another s***storm of an event.

People seem to forget that Tony had visions put in his head and that the swordsman was an Avenger who came and asked for help. Hulkling could have contacted the Avengers a head as well.

[Huntsman Spider]

People seem to forget that Tony had visions put in his head and that the swordsman was an Avenger who came and asked for help. Hulkling could have contacted the Avengers a head as well.

Fair point, I'll admit.