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    Quote Originally Posted by Journey View Post
    The fantastic 4 issue was absolutely pointless, like honestly 4 what? Literally had nothing to do with the plot so why they didn't just release it last week is beyond me. Could have cancelled it like other issues and it would have been just fine.
    You basically summarized my thoughts on the current FF run...

    Last edited by Crimz; 07-08-2020 at 05:37 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drops Of Venus View Post
    So I just saw this on Twitter. It looks like it's a preview of what was supposed to be the now cancelled Empyre: Spider-Man comic. I'm assuming it's from the printed version of the Empyre Magazine, and they probably didn't edit it out because it had been already printed that way. It's interesting that it looks like some of the art was already completed and inked, just without any coloring. It kinda makes me scared for other books out there that haven't been rescheduled/resolicited yet, because now we know that art being partially done doesn't even mean the book will see the light of day.

    Yeah, that was originally due out on April 1, so it was already printed. The digital edition excised the content promoting cancelled books, such as Spider-Man and The Union.

    I see they didn't alter Agents of Wakanda #8. It still says it's to be continued in Invasion of Wakanda, even though that's also been cancelled (and the Agents title with it, so they should've replaced the last page with a message from the creative team).
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    I actually kinda liked the FF #0 issue.

    It reiterated the original role of Bel-Dar and Raksor, and the role the FF had in their story. Not everyone who Marvel Comics #1000 knew their backstory

    And it's expanding on the galactic crises that Ewing established in GotG
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    An alliance between the Kree and the Skrull has some major ramifications on the galactic economy.
    Apparently a lot of war profiteers relied on their endless fighting to drive profits.

    The universally accepted currency is worthless! The Galaxy is back to a bartering system

    There are so many implications to this
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    I enjoyed the FF issue. Was it completely relevant? Maybe not. But it was still a nicely written story with beautiful art.

    Also, the two kids they rescued may play a significant role in this event.

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    Liked the issue well enough, I really dug the new Skrull girl, N'kalla. But I do agree it was pretty much pointless.

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    I didn't read it yet, but it's weird Slott kept hyping up this issue on twitter if it's indeed very pointless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonPiece View Post
    I didn't read it yet, but it's weird Slott kept hyping up this issue on twitter if it's indeed very pointless.
    Mind you, it wasn't entirely pointless. It introduced N'kalla and Jo-Venn and chauffeured the F4 into the event, but I feel like you could've chopped this up into a few pages and made an extra-large "Empyre: Avengers/Fantastic 4 #0".

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    The issue was pretty good and probably better than the Avengers one 2 weeks ago.

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    Basically, the F4 get stuck in space and find out the currency crashed due to the Kree/Skrull alliance. Reed mentions the Kree and the Skrull from Incoming and how he first met them FF Annual #18. They go to some casino/arena, meet the Grandmaster's sister, save a Kree boy and a Skrull girl and dip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andru View Post
    Also, the two kids they rescued may play a significant role in this event.
    Quote Originally Posted by PlatinumThorns View Post
    Mind you, it wasn't entirely pointless. It introduced N'kalla and Jo-Venn and chauffeured the F4 into the event, but I feel like you could've chopped this up into a few pages and made an extra-large "Empyre: Avengers/Fantastic 4 #0".
    We saw in Empyre #1 preview that at the very beginning (also solicit spoilers)
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    they are sent to Earth with Franklin and Valeria and so will languish in the tie-in, probably only reappearing in the background around the end when its plot will actually touch something relevant with the super Omni-Wave projector.
    end of spoilers

    So yeah, I am not betting much on their relevance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fokken View Post
    I know not what a waifu us, but.....I feel like the implication is that a new character is given the spotlight?
    "Waifu" is kind of a slang term in anime fandom circles, based on the Japanese pronunciation of the word "wife," for a female character that is the object of a male fan's, shall we say . . . "affection."
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    Affection is putting it mildly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triniking1234 View Post
    The issue was pretty good and probably better than the Avengers one 2 weeks ago.
    Empyre Avengers #0 sets up the event and felt relevant. It introduced all the important players and reintroduced the Coati.

    F4 #0 was a fun story, but didn't feel connected to the event.
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    I can't believe Marvel decided to do two #0s and they are tonally different from each other while still highlighting some important old stories, establishing how the event is changing the cosmic landscape, and showing how each team gets caught up in the event, guys I can't believe this and I'm crying...
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    Quote Originally Posted by donkey View Post
    Affection is putting it mildly.
    Yeah, but there's only so much I can get away with stating here.
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    Most of the complaints I've seen about the issue is that its "pointless" and "irrelevant"--which seems a pretty premature thing to say, given that the story hasn't truly even begun yet. After all, this is a #0 issue -- its a prelude. I know the long comic shutdown has us all impatient for things to get started, but its hardly the prelude's fault that it isn't right into the big events. Its not and was never intended to be.

    Just as the AVENGERS #0 issue (re)introduced Quoi, Swordsman and the Cotati, who are going to be important to the event, the FF #0 issue introduces 3 new characters who are going to be carrying on into the event (and possibly beyond). That alone makes it relevant. Just because we don't know yet how the elements introduced here are going to play out doesn't make it pointless--it means we need to wait and see.

    If people didn't like the issue just on its own merits, because they weren't interested in the story, or didn't like the art, etc, that's fair enough. But dismissing it as pointless or a waste of time in terms of the overall event just seems to me to be a rather silly complaint because it is far too soon to be able to judge it in those terms.

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