Empyre (2020)

[Ichijinijisanji]

Really, the earth heroes have won against pretty much everyone. Skrulls, Kree, Shiar, Galactus, Thanos, Builders, Beyonders, etc.

Not only should the Kree and Skrulls respect the earth (or earth heroes at least) more, they should frankly FEAR them at this point. They frankly should be smart enough to just shut up, get out of the Avengers way, and let them fix thing.

Obviously the aliens will never ever be written that way, but that's probably what realistically should happen at this point.

They feared them in maximum security to turn earth into a prison planet. Even in the recentish secret empire, the reason aliens weren't willing to help was because.... Earth kinda scary. I mean they broke the infinity stones and now they'd standing up to a the chitauri wave

[Tony Stark]

How short their memories are...who led the fight against the Builders....and won. The Avengers...but whenever something like this comes up it comes down to "destroy the Earth." Instead of "Let's call the Avengers (or the FF) and let them know what's going on."

Here here! Love to see the Avengers getting some credit and respect. They damn near get the blame for almost everything. I know they have made make mistakes, but come on. Doesn’t everybody.

[Tony Stark]

Carol and kinda Quoi - though Quoi has external narration, so not sure it counts.

Thanks for the info.

[Beetle]

Empyre #3 preview is already up

It looks like the Cotati have some more elite forces that they are holding back for now

[Huntsman Spider]

Yes, realistically, Earth heroes should be respected, but I feel, aliens don’t like to be relegated to spectators in their own stories, so, yes, jealousy is a big factor.

And another unrelated thought, (but in the same logical frame of mind), there have been sprinkled comments in the books that the normal people can’t tell the heroes from the villains. After all, the heroes are still considered to have lead to Secret Wars because the Illuminati failed to include Doctor Doom into their confidence, when Dr Strange and Reed Richards ignored Dooms help. The same Dr Strange Doom killed in Secret Wars. The constant merry-go-round of senseless fights the heroes and villains get into is unsustainable for a normal society. If the hero’s and villains acted like normal society they would form different political parties and people would Vote one or the other in for a 4 year term, not fight it out wrecking whole neighbourhoods.

A very good point, actually, and considering that many of the more recent conflicts in the Marvel Universe are the result of longstanding grudges incurred against, by, or even between Earth's heroes, it boils down to a cycle of violence that alienates and ultimately threatens everyone.

[XPac]

Empyre #3 preview is already up

It looks like the Cotati have some more elite forces that they are holding back for now

That doesn't sound to scary to me. They have bigger tougher plants in reserve ... ooooh.

Hopefully this book does a better job of establishing them as a threat.

[braddocks]

It probably won’t happen, but I need Clint to turn up in this and interact with Swordsman.

[Tony Stark]

It probably won’t happen, but I need Clint to turn up in this and interact with Swordsman.

I was thinking this as well, but I'm not going to get my hopes up.

[Frontier]

It probably won’t happen, but I need Clint to turn up in this and interact with Swordsman.

Yeah, thought Clint's not in much of a state to be with The Avengers right now...

[Digifiend]

Yeah, dude burned a lot of bridges in Freefall.

[Shadowcat]

He should reform Force Works after this, and make a more pro-active, willing to bend the rules from time to time.

[Tony Stark]

Yeah, dude burned a lot of bridges in Freefall.

So he burned a lot of bridges with the Avengers?

[Digifiend]

Solicit for Freefall's last issue says "With everything falling apart, Clint will be forced to make some choices he can’t take back. Will he find a way to get through this with clean hands, or will he be forced to return to his criminal ways?" and no, he doesn't get through with clean hands. Just ask Night Nurse!

[braddocks]

So he burned a lot of bridges with the Avengers?

Everyone believes he put Steve in the hospital, and he hasn’t done anything to correct that assertion. So yeah.
As far as they’re aware, he’s Ronin and killing people.

[Tony Stark]

Everyone believes he put Steve in the hospital, and he hasn’t done anything to correct that assertion. So yeah.
As far as they’re aware, he’s Ronin and killing people.

WOW! Didn’t know that. Thanks for the info.