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Though overall I am enjoying the event, I think the cancelled tie-ins (Invasion of Wakanda in particular) is somewhat hurting the story. I just don't feel as though I'm getting a 100% complete story here.
And I also feel the threat level of the antagonists is somewhat on the low side. They're only now just starting to feel really threatening.
But all criticism aside, I am genuinely enjoying the event and the characters it's choosing to spotlight.
Me too And your right the Canceled Tie-ins hurts the Event somewhat.But i am loving it,Did anybody get the Handbook.Im glad there doing Handbooks
Ah, just reopened it... "through space, through time". Not really what I'd call explicit, and so offhand I missed it first time reading it, but I guess that does give them some wiggle room on Teddy's age vs how long ago the Kree-Skrull War event where Mar-vell and Anelle conceived him must have been.
Although I can't seem to think of another instance of someone not from Earth (or Asgard, I guess, if you want to get technical) managing time travel to the past, even as part of space travel, which does make it seem pretty weird.
I too like you guys am enjoying Empyre as an event. I like that they are touching on characters that haven't gotten the spotlight they deserve. I gotta say I usually see things coming a mile away and I really was surprised about spoilers:end of spoilers Looking forward to the last issues to see what is to come.
She-Hulk being dead and her body being used as basically a puppet. Also CANNOT WAIT TO SEE Tony's FF armor.
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Honestly Heinberg just didn't think through(or didn't care) about the timelines when it came to the YA, Billy and Tommy's ages don't make sense either which is why the SW solo said something about "their souls were either sent back in time or took over the bodies of existing children". Marvel's default attitude on stuff like that it's to just not acknowledge the problem, so little tidbits like that by writers who know things don't check it's probably the most we can get.
Yeah, without time travel involved, all three of them should've been no older than Moon Girl. Heinberg didn't do the maths and other writers have had to fix it.
It's not the only time someone messed up the sliding timescale. There was a digital Avengers book a couple of years ago involving Kamala Khan seeing past Avengers adventures via a VR headset. It gets tampered with and she actually gets sent back in time to around when the Kooky Quartet debuted. She became a fifth member of it. But then she sees her mother. Who gets killed. That would supposedly mean Kamala wouldn't have been born... which is incorrect, as Kamala should've already been 2 or 3 years old by then (the Avengers formed about 14 years ago, the FF got their powers 15 years ago).
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Just because Heinberg didn't address the intricate details of the HOW within the first 2 volumes, doesn't mean he didn't think through or didn't care. If we follow that logic, he didn't think through or care about Tommy's back story, how Billy's powers work, who the other Avenger Protocol names belong to and how they're linked to the Avengers, or any other questions that may have billowed about in our brains at the conclusion of those first 2 volumes.
I don't see how those things are even remotely comparable. The fact that their ages don't match any possible in-universe timeline is a technical problem, things like not showing Tommy's backstory or fully explaining Billy's powers are storytelling choices. IIRC no one in-universe questioned "wait, wasn't the Kree-Skrull war just a few years ago?" or "Shouldn't the reincarnation of Wanda's children still be children?" during Heinberg's issues. They all just went with it as if it made complete sense.