Empyre (2020)

[Oberon]

As I said in the other thread, Johnny always gives off bi-vibes. It's his go-to vibe.

I've never felt that. I've read the FF since the '60s. To me, the original Torch Crystal story is like Marvel's Romeo and Juliet, which may be why they won't ever get them together... sighing sadly.

But I don't see Torch being bi at all. Maybe I see him being chummy with Wyatt or a few others, and maybe, teeny weeny possible. But he's had to many relationships with women that got pretty serious, as well as married. Wouldn't a SKRull like Lyja seen that more likely (not that she would express it 'on panel')

[PhoenixThanos]

As I said in the other thread, Johnny always gives off bi-vibes. It's his go-to vibe.

Johnny Storm to me has always been like a teenage player with the women, a younger version of Tony Stark without the $$$.
Bi vibes cut your fingers off for typing such a thing.

[scourge]

As I said in the other thread, Johnny always gives off bi-vibes. It's his go-to vibe.

He definitely has given me the bi-vibes too. One of a few guys that do in Marvel.

[Dermie]

Johnny Storm to me has always been like a teenage player with the women, a younger version of Tony Stark without the $$$.
Bi vibes cut your fingers off for typing such a thing.

You do realize that Johnny being bisexual would not, in any way, prevent him from still being a 'player with the women', right? He'd still be interested in women, so it does not erase or undermine any of his past behaviour as a pursuer of women.

Bisexual also doesn't have to mean 50/50 interest in both men and women. A person can be bisexual and still be more strongly oriented towards one sex (in Johnny's case women, clearly).

[Crimz]

I've read tons of FF and I always thought he had that "vibe" to him. Everyone's different so everyone will interpret things differently. Also him being bi does not take away from him being a "player" at all. If anything wouldn't it make him more of one? He'd be pulling both women and men.

[PhoenixThanos]

You do realize that Johnny being bisexual would not, in any way, prevent him from still being a 'player with the women', right? He'd still be interested in women, so it does not erase or undermine any of his past behaviour as a pursuer of women.

Bisexual also doesn't have to mean 50/50 interest in both men and women. A person can be bisexual and still be more strongly oriented towards one sex (in Johnny's case women, clearly).

Johnny Storm only likes females, some males may like his daredevil ways but for Johnny, its women and women only.

[Crimz]

Johnny Storm only likes females, some males may like his daredevil ways but for Johnny, its women and women only.

Has the character ever said that?

[Digifiend]

You do realize that Johnny being bisexual would not, in any way, prevent him from still being a 'player with the women', right? He'd still be interested in women, so it does not erase or undermine any of his past behaviour as a pursuer of women.

Bisexual also doesn't have to mean 50/50 interest in both men and women. A person can be bisexual and still be more strongly oriented towards one sex (in Johnny's case women, clearly).

That's how Iceman should've been handled.

[Wiccan]

That's how Iceman should've been handled.

Iceman had a history of weird and failed relationships with women. Him being bi could've been done too but being gay wasn't bad.

[Grapeweasel]

I'm a huge fan of pornographic fan fiction but I think it's bleeding into the real comics a little too much.....

[Fokken]

I'm a huge fan of pornographic fan fiction but I think it's bleeding into the real comics a little too much.....

This is not commentary on the fact that Billy and Teddy are shown laying together in bed is it?

[Grapeweasel]

This is not commentary on the fact that Billy and Teddy are shown laying together in bed is it?

I think it's more of a Krakoa reference, where everyone's hooking up with everyone.

Johnny Storm bisexual? Sure, why not.

[Wiccan]

I think it's more of a Krakoa reference, where everyone's hooking up with everyone.

Why did you comment it on the Empyre thread then?

[Grapeweasel]

Why did you comment it on the Empyre thread then?

For the Johnny Storm comments.

[dkrook]

I'm a huge fan of pornographic fan fiction but I think it's bleeding into the real comics a little too much.....

Agreed! There seems to be a slow drift toward the sexualizing some elements of comics. Start a new comic line that is purely adult but can include the same Marvel characters. Almost like the old Max line and let all these ideas play out.