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    Quote Originally Posted by KNIGHT OF THE LAKE View Post
    The weirdest part about that narrative is that the Hal in the movie was nothing like the Hal in the comics. He was just a generic hero who was filled with self doubt and needed to overcome his feeling of inadequacy. Many people pointed out that he was a lot closer to Kyle. Hal’s more Top Gun.

    Anybody who thinks that is just filled with salt that it wasn’t their favorite GL
    Comic Hal is garbage just like movie Hal. There's no version of that character that isn't a bland, uninterest piece of cardboard. He's no good as the lead of a franchise.

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    Of course they're using the New 52 version of Alan Scott. Is it that hard to get Jade and Obsidian in on this so we can have some Scott family drama? Is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Weapon View Post
    Comic Hal is garbage just like movie Hal. There's no version of that character that isn't a bland, uninterest piece of cardboard. He's no good as the lead of a franchise.
    You are allowed to be wrong. There’s a reason why Kyle only ever worked for a cup of coffee in the 90’s when he was new and shiny and John could only be popular when he got to stand next to Batman and Superman on a cartoon for a few years and all the truly iconic stuff in the franchise is connected to Hal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Weapon View Post
    Comic Hal is garbage just like movie Hal. There's no version of that character that isn't a bland, uninterest piece of cardboard. He's no good as the lead of a franchise.
    I find him plenty interesting and entertaining in Morrison's GL.
    Does that make me a boring person?

    Quote Originally Posted by U.N. Owen View Post
    Of course they're using the New 52 version of Alan Scott. Is it that hard to get Jade and Obsidian in on this so we can have some Scott family drama? Is it?
    They still could. While New 52 may be a significant inspiration, it may not be the only source they are drawing from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KNIGHT OF THE LAKE View Post
    You are allowed to be wrong. There’s a reason why Kyle only ever worked for a cup of coffee in the 90’s when he was new and shiny and John could only be popular when he got to stand next to Batman and Superman on a cartoon for a few years and all the truly iconic stuff in the franchise is connected to Hal
    The only reason Kyle got the boot is because Geoff Johns had a silver age fetish and buried a lot of new characters to bring back his childhood favorites. Did the same to so many characters like Flash, Captain Boomerang and Toyman to name a few.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Weapon View Post
    The only reason Kyle got the boot is because Geoff Johns had a silver age fetish and buried a lot of new characters to bring back his childhood favorites. Did the same to so many characters like Flash, Captain Boomerang and Toyman to name a few.
    I think Kyle's sales were declining at that point anyway, and he didn't actually get the boot he just was no longer the lead. Plus nobody can say it didn't work out since the GL line was DC's hottest book while Johns was on it, with Hal as the lead. So unless we're being salty, there is no evidence that any perceived "Silver Age fetish" didn't go over well.

    But we could all collectively stand to take less digs at Hal, John or Kyle right now. On the bright side, this would give attention to less prominent GLs and would avoid the more prominent flame wars between the three mains. But the creative team doesn't inspire confidence.

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    Disappointed Hal won't be in it but nice to Jess getting some attention. Always have GL:TAS at least.

    That this involves people from the 2011 movie however doesn't fill me with much hope for it.

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    Whatever happened to the John Diggle GL series that was VERY HEAVILY hinted at the end of Arrow tv series?

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    Quote Originally Posted by andersonh1 View Post
    So no Hal Jordan, no John Stewart, and the gay version of Alan Scott. They use all the GLs I don't care about and none of the ones that I do. Pass.
    I don't get why they put Alan Scott in this show, he belongs with the JSA not with the Green Lantern Corps.

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    Hal Jordan/HJ and John Stewart/JS should be the leading duo in live action and animation....the others should be support characters until it's warranted or earned a spin off show.

    Wtf what the epic *#$@?
    Why is DC and WB going overboard above and beyond to get rid of John Stewart/JS?

    First they tried to kill off JS in new52?....fans rebelled.

    And Geoff John's himself completely ridiculed JS when he was writing the Green lantern comics.

    Rumor has it that it was his idea and push to get rid of JS so that he can replace him with his creations Jessica Cruz and Simon Baz (Teeeerrible and culturally insensitive name for an Arab character).

    Then DC refused and blocked the writer of GL: Lost Army to complete the limited series because it primarily focused on JS.

    DC did this earlier in the 90s with GL:Mosaic.....also blocked and refused the writer to complete that story.

    Thank goodness late Dwayne McDuffie was involved in the legendary JL toons of 2,000's otherwise we would have never gotten JS in animation and written so brilliantly.

    However since then DC and WB have refused to let this character grow beyond comics.

    Cruz and Baz had no biz being GLs....they should have been members of any of the other corps.

    Guy fits perfectly as a RL...IMO. He worked and looked superb in the new 52 RL comics and should have stayed there. Guy's perpetually angered characteristic makes being an RL a perfect match for him.

    Kyle should remain a WL if not then let it be Hal

    Which leaves John and either Hal or Kyle as GLs...add Jade, Karma Tui, kilowogg and Alan Scott as the lead support cast for the GLs.

    But instead...look at this nonsense HBOmax has approved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Besouro View Post
    Hal Jordan/HJ and John Stewart/JS should be the leading duo in live action and animation....the others should be support characters until it's warranted or earned a spin off show.

    Wtf what the epic *#$@?
    Why is DC and WB going overboard above and beyond to get rid of John Stewart/JS?
    It's possible that they are saved for the big screen.

    Might be a similar situation as with Batman, where we get stuff like Gotham and Batwoman since they don't want to do a Batman TV show.

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    Double post.... sorry my bad!
    Last edited by Besouro; 10-10-2020 at 01:39 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aahz View Post
    It's possible that they are saved for the big screen.

    Might be a similar situation as with Batman, where we get stuff like Gotham and Batwoman since they don't want to do a Batman TV show.
    Bruce Wayne was very much part of the Gotham series.

    Batwoman is about batwoman.

    The batfamily have had VEEEERY MANY adaptations the esp Batman.....frankly Batman has even become a trope at this point.

    None of the above compared to the idiocy of what HBOmax is doing with the GL show.

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    Rumor has it that it was his idea and push to get rid of JS so that he can replace him with his creations Jessica Cruz and Simon Baz (Teeeerrible and culturally insensitive name for an Arab character).
    I read that geoff johns is half arab by the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiegePerilous02 View Post
    I think Kyle's sales were declining at that point anyway, and he didn't actually get the boot he just was no longer the lead. Plus nobody can say it didn't work out since the GL line was DC's hottest book while Johns was on it, with Hal as the lead. So unless we're being salty, there is no evidence that any perceived "Silver Age fetish" didn't go over well.

    But we could all collectively stand to take less digs at Hal, John or Kyle right now. On the bright side, this would give attention to less prominent GLs and would avoid the more prominent flame wars between the three mains. But the creative team doesn't inspire confidence.
    When Johns was writing GL it was pretty much one blockbuster event after another. A lot of things huge events happened around Hal but he wasn't at the center of any of them. The villains push those plots forward moreso than he did. Sinestro got more development during Johns run than the books lead. I can arguably say the same for Atrocitus.

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