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    I am reading really early Superman. The 1940's Superman. In it he doesnt fly he leaps. And he works at the daily star not the Daily Planet.

    So when does he start to fly? And when does he start working for the planet?
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    I'm not sure of exact issues, but even after the Fleischer cartoons depicted him flying, it was still a couple of years before it became a regular thing in the comics. I believe the Daily Star became the Daily Planet after the radio show renamed it(and also gave us Perry White and Jimmy Olsen).

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    If you are interested, there are episodes of the radio show freely available. As was said, it introduced Perry and Jimmy. And Jimmy was kid. I liked his characterization, generally. And liked him as a reporter better than as a photographer. He really didn't appear much in the comics until the mid-1950s.

    As for Superman's powers - it's quite a while before they all settle down. Don't even think he got a proper "heat vision" (separate from x-ray vision) until the 1960s.

    Looking it up, looks like Daily Planet first appeared in Action Comics #23 and Perry in Superman #7. Haven't read it. They kinda cheat with Jimmy, if I recall. I could be misremembering, but it seem like several differently-rendered nameless copy boys were later retconned to be Jimmy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tzigone View Post
    If you are interested, there are episodes of the radio show freely available. As was said, it introduced Perry and Jimmy. And Jimmy was kid. I liked his characterization, generally. And liked him as a reporter better than as a photographer. He really didn't appear much in the comics until the mid-1950s.

    As for Superman's powers - it's quite a while before they all settle down. Don't even think he got a proper "heat vision" (separate from x-ray vision) until the 1960s.
    I have several of the old time radio programs downloaded from a radio site. I am listening to The Shadow and Blue Beetle then I will get to Superman. Dint know thats where Perry and Jimmy were introduced. Thats neat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tzigone View Post
    If you are interested, there are episodes of the radio show freely available. As was said, it introduced Perry and Jimmy. And Jimmy was kid. I liked his characterization, generally. And liked him as a reporter better than as a photographer. He really didn't appear much in the comics until the mid-1950s.

    As for Superman's powers - it's quite a while before they all settle down. Don't even think he got a proper "heat vision" (separate from x-ray vision) until the 1960s.

    Looking it up, looks like Daily Planet first appeared in Action Comics #23 and Perry in Superman #7. Haven't read it. They kinda cheat with Jimmy, if I recall. I could be misremembering, but it seem like several differently-rendered nameless copy boys were later retconned to be Jimmy.
    Jimmy was in the baby and archer issues for the first time in superman comics.superman issue#13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tzigone View Post
    If you are interested, there are episodes of the radio show freely available. As was said, it introduced Perry and Jimmy. And Jimmy was kid. I liked his characterization, generally. And liked him as a reporter better than as a photographer. He really didn't appear much in the comics until the mid-1950s.

    As for Superman's powers - it's quite a while before they all settle down. Don't even think he got a proper "heat vision" (separate from x-ray vision) until the 1960s.

    Looking it up, looks like Daily Planet first appeared in Action Comics #23 and Perry in Superman #7. Haven't read it. They kinda cheat with Jimmy, if I recall. I could be misremembering, but it seem like several differently-rendered nameless copy boys were later retconned to be Jimmy.
    I'd heard that, that there were unnamed Jimmy-like characters before he was explicitly named in the radio show. But I feel like he's not actually Jimmy Olsen until he's called Jimmy Olsen.

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    Jimmy was in the baby and archer issues for the first time in superman comics.superman issue#13
    I'd heard that, that there were unnamed Jimmy-like characters before he was explicitly named in the radio show. But I feel like he's not actually Jimmy Olsen until he's called Jimmy Olsen.
    Right on both accounts, I think. I know he's listed in some sources as first appearing in Action #6 three years earlier, but I don't really think of that as Jimmy.

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    The Daily Planet debuted in the newspapers, Nov of 1939. But like with many things the familiar details filled in over time.

    The flight IMO was in 1947. You might say that he was flying before then, but the depiction generally stuck to motion lines and postures implying that he was going up or down and not often breaking a normal arc when changing trajectory except when swooping down (like into windows fot example). By late 1947/early '48 he not only had something of a horizontal flight posture but also a signature trick: time travel, which explicitly relied on being able to change his angle, stay in the air, and accelerate indefinitely.

    As it's been said other media was really an influence but those things weren't cleanly incorporated into the comics. Those later stories I mention just recently got reprinted in the Golden Age Omnibus vol 6.
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