I know nothing about these children besides everyone on this board seems to hate them. Can anyone elaborate?
Did we really need a second Hellfire Club? The current one is already taking up so much space from its infighting and the government it is supposed to be representing not trusting 2/3rds of the people they've put in charge of it.
I couldn't get behind the moment with Storm. They're supposed to be a nation! You can't have one of the leaders of your country leading assaults on the navy of another country and seizing their citizens. Its just ridiculous.
Different tastes for different readers, but I'm not impressed by adults acting like hormonal teenagers, especially when they have been around and experienced life like Kitty have, and when they occupy important leadership roles like she did at the time.
I was glad to see her as a matured individual, her subsequent collapse at the end of the gold run and her drunken violent ways now are difficult to reconcile with that.
What is growth? It's like the joke that X-23 is turning into over in Fallen Angel, as if those characters never learn anything EVER. It's sad, really sad.
I hope not because that would be pathetic: she can still live on Krakoa if she wants to, the gates are just an easy transportation system, they Don't stop her from living there and Moving back and forth.
Her mutantness is not jeopardized just because she can't use the gates.
Yeah, that pillow rammed into that woman torso and shoulder is the kind of wounds that would be mortal to most people.
Nothing speculative about observing that, sorry.
Unless that woman receives immediate medical help or has had an Healing factor grafted to her somehow, she'll be dead in minutes from the bleeding, the suffocation, the pain all happening at once.
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"The means are as important as the end - we have to do this right or not at all.
Anything less negates every belief we've ever had, every sacrifice we've ever made."
"Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely."
"No justice, no peace."
In the real world sure, but this isn't the real world its superhero comics. If real world physics and consequences applied every Marvel and DC hero is a murderer many times over. Cyclops would blow his head off every time he opens his eyes. Speedsters would reduce themselves into a puddle of goo everytime they run. Comics are an entertainment medium with a built in suspension of disbelief and literary rules that apply. The MUs opertaing philosophy is based more on rule of cool than Newtons 3rd law. Thats a hardcoded aspect of the medium and complaints to the contrary aren't genuine criticism because it ignores the decades of history and precedent of the medium.
They're a bunch of evil kid geniuses Jason Aaron introduced in Schism and they became the main antagonists for Wolverine and the X-Men which kinda made sense since that was supposed to be a X-Academy book... until it didn't so you had all these senior X-Men getting bullied by flatscan kids which led to a lot of people on the board not liking them.
"Cable was right!"
I was hoping this book would have had more of a political thriller type of vibes with a lot of scheming and plot twist. Unfortunately, it’s giving me Saturday morning cartoon vibes. I’d love to see Sebastian demonstrate how formidable he is as the Black King of the Hellfiire Club. Emma is too comfortable in her position. Kitty feels out of character with the bruise eye and tattoos. At least her long hair is back but her red queen outfit feels tacky as fcuk. No here for the Hellfire Brats. Can’t Selene just have them for lunch?
“Strength is the lot of but a few privileged men; but austere perseverance, harsh and continuous, may be employed by the smallest of us and rarely fails of its purpose, for its silent power grows irresistibly greater with time.” Goethe
I KNEW as soon as I saw this last panel:
… that it would elicit a certain response from a specific segment of the fandom. I'm guessin' the creators probably realized it too, so... well-played?
And to be fair, isn't it within the realm of reasonability that this adversarial, enhanced post-human had precautionary measures readily in place, to deal with & overcome such battle induced damage? Seems to me, that would be a bit of a foregone conclusion, given what we've learned about them so far. I mean, their overall durability & underlying augmentations apparently come at least partially, from keeping contingency in mind.
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So what? I didn't mention anything about mindless violence. If you want to criticize the books over the violence go nuts. Complaining that the violence used would be lethal in the real world however is an absurd criticism considering the medium, and that was true even in Claremont's era.
Lady Deathstrike has got some healing capabilities, right? (I don't quite remember if she was less robot than today's version at a point? I've always remembered her as being enhanced but at a point she was a full on android right?). I mean, she's mostly robotic anyway so I guess these two ladies are mostly robotic too and can probably shrug it off (they were essentially Reavers).
Accidental, premature posting, lol.
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This isn't the real world but this isn't a saturday Morning cartoon either.
There's a minimum level of commonality between IRL and the Marvel Universe that we can say that:
-if people take a bullet in their head, they die;
-if people get stabbed in their heart, they die;
-if people fall over a 10-story building, they die...
And so on and so forth.
That woman has a pillow rammed through her torso, shoulder and face.
You can suspend your disbelief all the way up through the roof if you want, those wounds would prove fatal to anyone not having some sort of Healing power or receiving extensive medical assistance in the Marvel universe.
That's just how that universe works, if anything you are the one ignoring the history of the Marvel universe if you pretend that kind of wound isn't Deadly to most 616 inhabitants...
That's an observation, not a criticism, not unlike what happened to QQ in the last issue of X-Force btw.
The "genuine criticism" as you put it lies in Kitty Pryde being the one inflicting that kind of damage to her opponents.
You'd expect that from the likes of Wolverine or the Punisher, not from her.
People having their lung rammed through like this woman here will die or be on their way to dying as a result, IRL or 616, there's no getting around that. Of course, you are free to consider the opposite but it doesn't change this.
"The means are as important as the end - we have to do this right or not at all.
Anything less negates every belief we've ever had, every sacrifice we've ever made."
"Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely."
"No justice, no peace."