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    What if Hydra's von Strucker and SHIELD's Fury agreed the rapidly growing superhuman phenomenon was a menance to humanity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhoenixThanos View Post
    What If the Phoenix Force took Thanos as its host after it left Thane.
    Not the biggest fan of Thanos, but it will be interesting to see this fan of death as the holder of the power of Phoenix.

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    What if Captain America never existed because the supersoldier serum never worked?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandy Hausler View Post
    I'm going to go back to basics.

    What if the rocket which carried Reed Richards, Benjamin Grimm, Sue Storm and Johnny Storm blew up or crashed, killing all four of them.

    No Fantastic Four.

    If no Fantastic Four, Johnny would not have found the amnesiac Bowery bum who turned out to be Submariner, meaning the Submariner does not return -- at least no at that time.

    If the Submariner was not active, he would not have broken the ice in which Captain America was imprisoned, meaning no Captain America -- at least at that time.

    The D'bari turn the Avengers into stone (as recounted in Avengers #4), but because that is no Captain America to save them, they remain as statues! (The D'brai incident also involved the Submariner, but if he gets swapped out with Atuma or some other Atlantean, things might still work out.)

    So the remaining Marvel heroes are Spider-Man, Daredevil, the X-Men, Dr. Strange and the Hulk. (I'm not sure how the retcon characters -- Blue Marvel and Sentry (and maybe Jessica Jones) -- would fit into this, but I'm sure that can be worked out.) Since the X-Men would become the principal super hero group, mutants might be so hated as they are in our current Marvel Universe. Maybe, without the existence of Reed Richards, Doctor Doom does not turn into a villain.

    But this sets up an interesting and different Marvel Universe with a few surprises (Cap, Submariner and the Avengers will have to return at some point).
    Considering that the Fantastic Four were the launchpad of the Marvel Universe as we know it today . . . a world without them would be interesting to see, albeit missing something quite fundamental. Then again, we did get a taste of that in the post-Secret Wars (2015) years, so . . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandy Hausler View Post
    I'm going to go back to basics.

    What if the rocket which carried Reed Richards, Benjamin Grimm, Sue Storm and Johnny Storm blew up or crashed, killing all four of them.

    No Fantastic Four.

    If no Fantastic Four, Johnny would not have found the amnesiac Bowery bum who turned out to be Submariner, meaning the Submariner does not return -- at least no at that time.

    If the Submariner was not active, he would not have broken the ice in which Captain America was imprisoned, meaning no Captain America -- at least at that time.

    The D'bari turn the Avengers into stone (as recounted in Avengers #4), but because that is no Captain America to save them, they remain as statues! (The D'brai incident also involved the Submariner, but if he gets swapped out with Atuma or some other Atlantean, things might still work out.)

    So the remaining Marvel heroes are Spider-Man, Daredevil, the X-Men, Dr. Strange and the Hulk. (I'm not sure how the retcon characters -- Blue Marvel and Sentry (and maybe Jessica Jones) -- would fit into this, but I'm sure that can be worked out.) Since the X-Men would become the principal super hero group, mutants might be so hated as they are in our current Marvel Universe. Maybe, without the existence of Reed Richards, Doctor Doom does not turn into a villain.

    But this sets up an interesting and different Marvel Universe with a few surprises (Cap, Submariner and the Avengers will have to return at some point).
    One consequence is maybe The Eternals have to reveal themselves nearly a decade earlier, fearing the human world-beater supervillains are going to tick off the Celestials during their Judgement Visit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrNewGod View Post
    What if Hydra's von Strucker and SHIELD's Fury agreed the rapidly growing superhuman phenomenon was a menance to humanity?
    HYDRA and S.H.I.E.L.D. working together or even merging to control or eliminate superhumans? Yeah, I could see that. Could end up like something out of the Framework arc of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Season 4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Force de Phenix View Post
    Thy wouldn't have written the letter to join the Avengers.
    Well, Whizzer is a WWII hero, they would probably still join Avengers, just for a different reason.
    The Montesi What if is mainly about Victoria and Wanda's shared Chthonic heritage.

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    "What If Dazzler's And Rick Jones' Successes Had Inspired Thor To Record An Album?"
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    What if Peter Parker had gained the human torch's power and vice versa
    What if Eternity dies
    What if the demiurge had consumed all the pantheons
    What if Adam Warlock had married Gamora
    What if Nurse Annie visited Krakoa
    What if the immortal hulk and the reintegrated Sentry fought each other
    What if starbrand destroyed the Marvel Universe
    What if Deadpool and Frank Castle receive a series costarring the two to complete the trio
    What if Galactus starts vomiting out all he has consumed
    What if the unseen is murdered by Uatu
    What if Carnage Ben and Other Kaine clashed
    What if Doctor Doom had created the Fantastic Four
    What if Magneto was killed by Joseph in magneto war
    What if Conan the barbarian was a scholar

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    What if the Vibranium meteorite hit another African country a non-Fictional one? Ex: Nigeria, Kenya, South Africa
    What if we got a Vibranium shower and it hit several countries? Vibranium arms race.

    What if Doctor Doom spent more time trying to be the Sorcerer Supreme instead of battling intellects with Reed battling Magic’s with Strange?
    What if Strange had a sister like he did in the animated movie?
    What if Black Bolt grew up among humans instead of at Attilan and discovered he was Inhuman later on getting terrigenisis later in life even?
    What if the Fantastic Four was given different abilities?
    What if Ironman sold the Ironmen armor to the US early on in his career or to shield and worked under them?
    What if Carol was a mutant and got the Phoenix force?
    What if Captain Marvel found out she was Half Kree early on in her career and spent more time on Hala?
    What if Juggernaut was an Avenger?
    What if Rick Jones became Abomb earlier in his career?
    What if Storm was a villain or Orisha who had her own interest?

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    What If Adam Airlock Had Forsaken The High Evolutionary On Counter Earth?

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    What If The Red Skull Had Defected To The Allies in 1945?

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    What If A villain saved the kids from Avengers Arena
    What If Professor X founded the Avengers
    What If Wolverine led The Hand
    What If the Ultimate Universe survived instead of the 616 universe
    What If Deadpool had the cosmic cube
    What If Thor and the Norse Gods started a Holy War with the other religions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutant God View Post
    What If A villain saved the kids from Avengers Arena
    What If Professor X founded the Avengers
    What If Wolverine led The Hand
    What If the Ultimate Universe survived instead of the 616 universe
    What If Deadpool had the cosmic cube
    What If Thor and the Norse Gods started a Holy War with the other religions
    The first one is my favorite. Having a villain save the kids from Avengers Arena would do a lot (more) to damage the kids' faith in the adult heroes and could even push them towards the path of becoming villains themselves.
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    What if Black Panther sought to rule the planet?
    What if Luke Cage was recruited to the Nova Corps?
    What if Generation X was the first group of mutants to be X-Men?
    I'm going to second the what if Blue Marvel refused to retire when the government asked him and decided to directly combat white supremacy in America?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dkrook View Post
    What if Generation X was the first group of mutants to be X-Men?
    I was thinking the same for the New Mutants.

    One difference, in either case, would be the 'founding five' that become the initial template for Mimic are different. He originally had Cyclops, Angel, Beast, Iceman and Marvel Girl. In the Gen X version, he'd probably have Monet, Husk, Skin, Chamber and either Penance or Synch? A New Mutants Mimic would be a mashup of Cannonball, Sunspot, Wolfsbane, Karma and Moonstar. Funky!

    It's interesting to think of a starting X-Men lineup that doesn't include Scott, Jean, Bobby, Warren or Hank. Imagine one composed of Alex, Lorna and various other folk sort of retconned in over the years, like Vulcan, Petra, Sway and Darwin, or Changeling, or Sage/Tessa.

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