I just want them to stay as they are as shown in the image of Earth 1985.
I just want them to stay as they are as shown in the image of Earth 1985.
Bring back the original LOSH, And saturn girl should have a long hair like Grant Morrison Action Comics instead of a Captain Marvel(Marvel) looking style
"Dangerous Zombie! Transform!! Click And Load! Buggle UP! Danger! Danger! Death The Crisis! Dangerous Zombie!" Kamen Rider Gemn
(In first he's mysterious and evil and now he's psycho and crazy and insane and evil AND "The Meme Lord"LOL.)
Strongly disagree that assessment of the NTT. The original TT were the sidekicks to the JL (well, actually, Wally was an independent teen hero, not a sidekick and I'm not sure how to classify Donna) - they'd outgrown that by time the NTT came along. And those roles certainly weren't applicable to Starfire, Raven, and Cyborg. And they certainly did not fill a "sidekick" or "junior" niche during their most prominent era - 1980 to 1985. The non-Gar members were certainly grown ups by 1985, and Donna was married by then.Here's an idea: it will always be 1985, as a year-long version of "Ground Hog Day". No growing up or old, and the NTT will always be the sidekicks to the JL.
While I don't especially mind them staying static, I don't think there's that much longevity for it for the NTT in particular. Other titles, maybe. But the very fact that they had growth and progression was a really big selling point for the title, and I'm not sure if nostalgia will work as an attractive feature with that big element lacking. It could.
I thought Dick and Kory's break-up had been building up before for a while COIE (and it was the reconciliation that was clunky and poorly handled). But I did go in to the title with DickBabs glasses on, so there's that.
Although it's an alternate universe, I'm not sure the Terry/Donna relationship could go over successfully with fans, given events that happened after. A break up may be in the offing.
Not having Dayton go crazy a second time would be different, but I'm not sure if it times out.
I didn't read Doomsday Clock - where's the breakpoint exactly - just before COIE or during? Is Raven still missing? Does Kole exist?
Last edited by Tzigone; 12-21-2019 at 01:03 PM.
I love all this.
On the GL side, I would add:
While John Stewart is serving as GL, Hal eventually separates Carol from Star Sapphire (at least for a spell). Guy is still brought in as a full time GL.
After Hal becomes GL again, he rejoins the League. John leaves Earth and assists Katma with patrolling sector 1417, eventually paving the way for a GLC series set in space.
Guy sticks around as a thorn in Hal's side on Earth. Guy goes on missions with the JL when Hal is unavailable (causing all sorts of fun drama).
Legacy stuff can stay on Earth 0, which will become Earth 5 G later.
Wait I need to write this down myself to help arrange my thoughts.
In the beginning, there was only one Earth, designated Earth-1, The Golden Age
Then there was Speed Force, and Earth-2 was created to preserve the Golden Age, while Earth-1 move to the Silver Age
And then there was Crisis, so Earth-1985 was created to preserve Earth-1 and The Silver Age, as the main Earth becomes Earth-0 and move to Post Crisis, which after Flashpoint, becomes the New 52
Finally, Earth-52 was created to preserve the New 52, and Earth-0 becomes a place for Rebirth
That about right?
So right now there's Earth-2 (Golden Age), Earth-1985 (Pre-Crisis), Earth-52 (New 52) and Earth-0 (Present Day) out there as far as we know. The Earth that preserves Post Crisis and Silver Age, if they exist, are not named?
Edit: The panel mention that the Metaverse preserves every incarnation of Superman, so a Post Crisis Earth has to exist to preserve Byrne's Superman
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The first Earth had no name. The Metaverse then moves to Earth 1 when it's created, then while Earth 2 shunts off. Then Crisis shunts Earth 1 history to Earth 1985.
Earth 0 is the Earth with 5G, it's just not soldified in the main books yet time wise. But then Earth 5G is created in 2026 shunting off our new post Doomsday Clock history of Earth 0 to Earth 5G. While DC reboots itself again in 2026 with a new Clark but older Batman who has a family.
They seem to avoid Zero Hour, Infinite Crisis, Final Crisis, etc.
Earth 1985 is cool and all, but what I'd really like to see is an Earth 1991, a post-crisis world that branches off right before Waverider started screwing around with the timeline in Armageddon 2001.
The post-Crisis either it's the same than New 52 or exists but isn't mentoned. The Silver Age one is Earth-1985, because there wasn't an event that created or shifted reality that much in that pedior outside Flash of the Two Worlds, which is the one that turned the original Earth-1 in a splitted Earth-2 from that point on.
I think.
Last edited by Zaresh; 12-21-2019 at 04:22 PM.
Just give me an anthology series named 1985 -- where we can see a continuation of pre-Crisis heroes --- Superman, Batman, Flash, Supergirl, Titans, Legion, Warlord, Outsiders, 70s Doom Patrol.