A Dan Slott's Iron Man question: Shouldn't the same be said about War Machine ?

[Tony Stark]

Very good point. If Curt Connors could find Stephen Strange and ask him about the souls of his "reanimated" family, why couldn't Tony do the same?

Exactly. Especially since Tony and Strange have grown closer over the years.

[Marvell2100]

Very good point. If Curt Connors could find Stephen Strange and ask him about the souls of his "reanimated" family, why couldn't Tony do the same?

I don't know why writers don't think of these things when doing these stories.

[Hypestyle]

I'm just tired of clones in general. But hey, have at it.. Forget it, Jake, it's comics....

[WebLurker]

Yeah, the same thing would apply to Peter Parker as well, due to what happened in Superior Spider-Man. And of course, any X-Men resurrected by the Five on Krakoa.

Kinda wondered about that myself. Always found it a bit funny that Slott intended Peter (and current Doc Ock, for that matter) to be the real deal while saying that current Tony Stark is a copy of the original, despite doing the exact same thing that Peter and Ock did. Maybe Slott had rational behind this (e.g. different stories with different purposes), but I still find it funny.

[Huntsman Spider]

I don't know why writers don't think of these things when doing these stories.

Because "drama!"

Kinda wondered about that myself. Always found it a bit funny that Slott intended Peter (and current Doc Ock, for that matter) to be the real deal while saying that current Tony Stark is a copy of the original, despite doing the exact same thing that Peter and Ock did. Maybe Slott had rational behind this (e.g. different stories with different purposes), but I still find it funny.

Indeed. At the very least, it's rather inconsistent.

[MichaelC]

I don't want Stark to go to those guys. This is Iron Man's comic, not Doctor Strange's. If there is a problem with souls in Iron Man's book, I want him to solve it by inventing ghostbuster technology, not by going to someone else. I'd be reading those other books if I wanted those other guys to save the day.

[Kintor]

I think that the existential issues over Iron Man and now the X-Men highlight the problem with Marvel trying to do fantasy and sci-fi at the same time. Codifying the mind as digital information, something that can be copied and moved to other substrates besides the original human brain, would suggest that the soul doesn't exist. Yet Marvel also maintains that the soul is real and this has tangible consequences for their more magically inclined characters. Unless Marvel decides to definitively put an end to one of these extremes, like say a war between the technological and the magical, these headaches will only continue.

[Desmark]

Imagine the robot revolution clashing with the strange academy over some arbitrary issue like magic suddenly disrupting sentient tech all of a sudden causing sentient AIs to die...... prepare for MvsM(Magic vs Machine) where Dr strange clashes with Machine Man in a robotic/supernatural war no one saw coming.

[Tony Stark]

I don't want Stark to go to those guys. This is Iron Man's comic, not Doctor Strange's. If there is a problem with souls in Iron Man's book, I want him to solve it by inventing ghostbuster technology, not by going to someone else. I'd be reading those other books if I wanted those other guys to save the day.

I could see this. We all know how much Tony doesn’t like to ask for help.

[Triniking1234]

Yeah, the same thing would apply to Peter Parker as well, due to what happened in Superior Spider-Man. And of course, any X-Men resurrected by the Five on Krakoa.

I feel Superior Spider-Man can be written off as a body possession story rather than a Rebirth one.

[Triniking1234]

I think that the existential issues over Iron Man and now the X-Men highlight the problem with Marvel trying to do fantasy and sci-fi at the same time. Codifying the mind as digital information, something that can be copied and moved to other substrates besides the original human brain, would suggest that the soul doesn't exist. Yet Marvel also maintains that the soul is real and this has tangible consequences for their more magically inclined characters. Unless Marvel decides to definitively put an end to one of these extremes, like say a war between the technological and the magical, these headaches will only continue.

Just like the Marvel replacing the OGs problem we just had, Marvel doing the same story plot in multiple stories at once (Black Widow, Iron Man, X-Men) is the issue.

[Ichijinijisanji]

Yo I remember this girl from a Ms marvel comic called "Essential"

She basically converted herself to data and uploaded to the internet. Now she's a hologram that can go wherever. And she got the tech to do it from a dude named stuart cavenger who uploaded bits of his personality to different androids and also tried uploading himself to the internet.

[SuperiorIronman]

I could see this. We all know how much Tony doesn’t like to ask for help.

But as a scientist, science is and should be peer reviewed and he knows Reed Richards and Doctor Strange. Reed might not have an answer to the soul stuff but Stephen Strange was neuro surgeon and would have an answer as it pertains to Tony's brain patterns on some level.

-I wrote more but frankly that's writing for Slott when I know damn well he isn't going to address it or if he does it will be after the fact when he gets it out of his system.

[MichaelC]

But as a scientist, science is and should be peer reviewed and he knows Reed Richards and Doctor Strange. Reed might not have an answer to the soul stuff but Stephen Strange was neuro surgeon and would have an answer as it pertains to Tony's brain patterns on some level.

-I wrote more but frankly that's writing for Slott when I know damn well he isn't going to address it or if he does it will be after the fact when he gets it out of his system.

In the real world, sure. In the contest of an inventor starring in his own comic, I don't care about peer-reviews at all. I want the star of the comic to do the major plot-relevant stuff. In the case of soul-stuff, I want Stark inventing ghostbuster tech rather than calling in Strange to solve his problem for him.

[WebLurker]

I feel Superior Spider-Man can be written off as a body possession story rather than a Rebirth one.

Well, there was a brain-swap, but then the story later ignores that, with the idea Peter was stuck in the recesses of his brain, while Ock was in the driver's seat. Even if we dismiss that, Ock himself resurrected himself with a digital copy, exactly like Iron Man.