Jean Grey: Phoenix/Marvel Girl Appreciation 2020

[salarta]

I don't know why I forgot to cross-post this here, but I remembered now, so here ya go!

In much better news, the piece I commissioned from Fosslis is complete!





There's a NSFW variant of them naked as well, which I'm not posting here for obvious reasons. I'll be saying where the NSFW variant can be found on my other social media accounts.

[Marvelboy1974]

I am actually very intrigued by these kids. I wonder that the “marvelboy”’s power set will be? A low level tp or tk? He seems to be a tech geek with the thing on his hands. The luchador mask is very marvelgirl.

[spirit2011]

I don't know why I forgot to cross-post this here, but I remembered now, so here ya go!

lorna and jean naked

[Vishop]

I don't know why I forgot to cross-post this here, but I remembered now, so here ya go!

Woah this looks really enticing

[juan678]

[Celestialbodies]

Damn I would read a small intimate team like this doing just about anything. Hell add an extra member simply for my OCD and need to have a set of five and I'm all in!

[darewithpeace]

Lets not forget this happened last year <3 and they are referencing the comics.



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[Celestialbodies]

Lets not forget this happened last year <3 and they are referencing the comics.



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It still hurts that the DPS will probably never be done correctly on the big screen. The sheer spectacle alone would have been incredible but just watching the growth of a young woman from a hero to a force of nature, to a harbinger of destruction. The causal fans would have lost it, too bad FOX butchered everything about her journey TWICE, hell television shows have captured the magic of the DPS better than a theatrically release!

[phoenixzero23]

It still hurts that the DPS will probably never be done correctly on the big screen. The sheer spectacle alone would have been incredible but just watching the growth of a young woman from a hero to a force of nature, to a harbinger of destruction. The causal fans would have lost it, too bad FOX butchered everything about her journey TWICE, hell television shows have captured the magic of the DPS better than a theatrically release!

It is a shame really, it is such an epic story but the image the general public has of it is just Jean throwing a tantrum.

The DPS should be the infinity war of the X-men.

[spirit2011]

Lets not forget this happened last year <3 and they are referencing the comics.



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Umbrella Academy was also a dark phoenix story

And constant x-men references on stranger things

unbelievable that Kinberg did a bad movie twice

[CRaymond]

unbelievable that Kinberg did a bad movie twice

Entirely believable. The original story is trash compared to the weight of its cultural impact. It's a LOT of pressure.

If you want to do Dark Phoenix themes, you stay on Earth and deal with gender roles. You could probably do that in a single movie, but The Last Stand was a hybrid and Dark Phoenix was poorly produced. If you're desperate for celestial motifs and galactic space battles, you'd need a season prestige series. Umbrella Academy managed to do that without space battles but it was also doing the heavy lifting of character introductions and world-building.

[salarta]

It still hurts that the DPS will probably never be done correctly on the big screen. The sheer spectacle alone would have been incredible but just watching the growth of a young woman from a hero to a force of nature, to a harbinger of destruction. The causal fans would have lost it, too bad FOX butchered everything about her journey TWICE, hell television shows have captured the magic of the DPS better than a theatrically release!

Realistically (and I say this having never read Dark Phoenix Saga), it would probably need to be told on TV rather than in a movie. For it to have the sort of impact I believe it's meant to have, you need 1) more time with the characters in advance, and 2) WAAAAAAAY more run time to do with it all that needs doing to emphasize its weight. Two to three hours isn't enough time to build audience attachment (especially if it's the first film a person watches), get into Jean's head, establish the stakes, and show how the rest of the world and characters that know Jean handle the events.

Edit: Bear in mind that in the MCU, the Thanos stuff being split into two parts took a decade's worth of build-up to reach. And the Avengers getting together itself, despite how simple that premise is, took 4-5 years and all the team except Hulk getting a lot of use in movies before it.

[spirit2011]

Entirely believable. The original story is trash compared to the weight of its cultural impact. It's a LOT of pressure.

If you want to do Dark Phoenix themes, you stay on Earth and deal with gender roles. You could probably do that in a single movie, but The Last Stand was a hybrid and Dark Phoenix was poorly produced. If you're desperate for celestial motifs and galactic space battles, you'd need a season prestige series. Umbrella Academy managed to do that without space battles but it was also doing the heavy lifting of character introductions and world-building.

I don't think it needs to be a tv show to get it.

Marvel build its cinematic universe using movies as tv series episodes. Infinity war and Endgame are massive movies, kinda of a season finale in two parts.

Other thing is that Feige knew the end since the beginning, so the basic to get there was done.

Fox movies never had this kinda of planning, and when it change the old cast for the younger one people got desinterested.

dark phoenix was too early yo get it.

[starduck]

I'd rather not see a Dark Phoenix movie again. Get another cosmic villain and have Jean throw down with him/her.

[Phoenixx9]

I'd rather not see a Dark Phoenix movie again. Get another cosmic villain and have Jean throw down with him/her....

....And win!! Oh yeah!