Jean Grey: Phoenix/Marvel Girl Appreciation 2020

**phoenixzero23** · 02-26-2020, 07:45 AM

Well at least the art was stunning and it was nice to see Jean outside the Marvel Girl costume.

**spirit2011** · 02-26-2020, 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by Legaldrugdealer

Yeah I agree with the cultish sentiment. Not just the fan base but the characters. As much as I was blown away by HOX/POX right now don't feel like I'm reading xmen books

Yep, seeing many people who like HOXPOX not that much excited anymore.

for sure there is cult vibes in story and out of story

**Havok83** · 02-26-2020, 07:53 AM

Its ironic that the best Jean in a Hickman written issue is the one where he barely writes any dialogue for her. Im convinced that this issue happened bc Dauterman wanted it and he was the main creator on it

**phoenixzero23** · 02-26-2020, 07:56 AM

Originally Posted by Havok83

Its ironic that the best Jean in a Hickman written issue is the one where he barely writes any dialogue for her. Im convinced that this issue happened bc Dauterman wanted it and he was the main creator on it

That seems to be the case.
It is such a let down, when Hickman finally has the oporunity to show something with Jean we get a copy of another older issue.
It could have been worse but it should have been better.

**thechronic92** · 02-26-2020, 07:59 AM

My expectations weren't high to begin with, I expected Jean to get thrown under the bus. I'm not too disappointed

**spirit2011** · 02-26-2020, 08:01 AM

Originally Posted by Havok83

Its ironic that the best Jean in a Hickman written issue is the one where he barely writes any dialogue for her. Im convinced that this issue happened bc Dauterman wanted it and he was the main creator on it

Yep, Dauterman choose Jean and also ploted the issue. It was marvel style, so he was a co-writer as much as Hickman.

Hickman really doesn't have a good hold on Jean, if he has a hold at all. The worse part is that we depend on Jean chaarcter development to get her out of Marvel girl costume.
She will only get out of that ugly costume when something significant happens to her, who knows how much time it can take

**Legaldrugdealer** · 02-26-2020, 08:03 AM

Originally Posted by phoenixzero23

That seems to be the case.
It is such a let down, when Hickman finally has the oporunity to show something with Jean we get a copy of another older issue.
It could have been worse but it should have been better.

Yeah I didn't like this retread aside from the art and the mostly no dialogue didn't help. Hell it took me longer to "read" the original gijoe silent issue

**5cents** · 02-26-2020, 08:07 AM

Originally Posted by spirit2011

The worse part is that we depend on Jean chaarcter development to get her out of Marvel girl costume.
She will only get out of that ugly costume when something significant happens to her, who knows how much time it can take

My fear is she will be in the skirt for the whole Hickman era and will only get a new costume once his term is over or coming to an end.

**spirit2011** · 02-26-2020, 08:15 AM

Originally Posted by phoenixzero23

That seems to be the case.
It is such a let down, when Hickman finally has the oporunity to show something with Jean we get a copy of another older issue.
It could have been worse but it should have been better.

Pure nostalgia. I'm tired of Jean being still in 2004

Originally Posted by 5cents

My fear is she will be in the skirt for the whole Hickman era and will only get a new costume once his term is over or coming to an end.

There is always the possiblity of killing Jean again.It's not lie he is any creative with Jean.

but I'm really afraid of what you said, he might get her the development and/or the clothes just on the end of his run.
I don't see any hint of him doing anything with Jean.

in another news Phoenix 1000000 BC showed up on today avengers, she has telepathic powers and there was vision about a future Phoenix

I could even put a bit more faith on Aaron doing something with phoenix Jean.

**MechaJeanix** · 02-26-2020, 08:19 AM

Yikes on the negativity. This issue while an homage was still great. Jean looked awesome and she was confident and capable. While it is natural to want more, at least we know Hickman can portray Jean well (or at least between Dauterman and Percy over in X-force, Hickman has been exposed to a well portrayed Jean Grey).

The page of Jean saving Emma is my new favorite Jean image. All in all it was a nice little story .

**darewithpeace** · 02-26-2020, 08:20 AM

At least it was amazing seein jean face without the mask on a mission

**spirit2011** · 02-26-2020, 08:23 AM

Originally Posted by darewithpeace

At least it was amazing seein jean face without the mask on a mission

and a different costume. too bad it is only for a issue

we really need more dauterman drawing Jean

**darewithpeace** · 02-26-2020, 08:25 AM

Originally Posted by spirit2011

and a different costume. too bad it is only for a issue

we really need more dauterman drawing Jean

Is confirmed that only for this issue jean is using this costume?

**Havok83** · 02-26-2020, 08:30 AM

Originally Posted by darewithpeace

Is confirmed that only for this issue jean is using this costume?

Every preview image of her in the future has her in the MG dress.

**mike7171** · 02-26-2020, 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by darewithpeace

Is confirmed that only for this issue jean is using this costume?

Non Jean related (or kindda). Just read X-Men and the theme is "Crucible".

I don't know the story of "No More Mutants"...but was curious, did they ever explain why 198 were not affected? What's so special about the 198? Was it a flaw on Wanda's powers?

The reason I asked is, Wanda is always being referred to as more powerful against Jean and kept on referencing her edge because of the "No More Mutants" incident.

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