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    The law doesn't say "do orgies", it just says let's make the mutants population grow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veitha View Post
    The law doesn't say "do orgies", it just says let's make the mutants population grow.
    Yes and that is very vague. One can interpret it as the resurrection protocols and Crucible which makes more mutants than any orgy which may or may not result in a pregnancy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    Their memories unlock didnt make them automatically fall for anyone, but it should have given them perspective to recontexualize their relationships. Jean should now have a different view of Emma than when her adult self last interacted with her in Morrison's run bc she saw Emma after that and has memories of getting closer to her. Jean's had an attraction to Logan in the past and one can say she resisted bc of her commitment and monogamy to Scott. If she now feels differently about Emma and doesnt mind sharing her with Scott, then its only fair that she gets to have Logan when she wants and it be okay bc all parties involved are aware and there is no lying and deciet.
    She also saw Emma commit mass murder, so i don't think it changed a lot. Don't mind sharing Scott with Emma is a fanfic development not one believable by comics canon
    people are forcing too much head canons in this.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCape View Post
    Not in the 90s, after CC last croosover, Logan stopped pursuing Jean and let her be happy with her soon to be husband, until the Casey/Morrison era.

    To clarify i'm not trying to justify Logan's questionable behavior previous to that, just saying that eventually Jean and Logan settled for a friendship and a more positive relationship from that decade (well excepts for AU but that doesn't count)
    Morrison Logan didn't tried anything with Jean, Casey kissed her bu also left it open.

    It's more positive, specially that it was only friendship. it still doesn't erase the origin of the relationship
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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    She also saw Emma commit mass murder, so i don't think it changed a lot. Don't mind sharing Scott with Emma is a fanfic development not one believable by comics canon
    Every mutant involved has committed some sort of mass murder. Next question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    Yes and that is very vague. One can interpret it as the resurrection protocols and Crucible which makes more mutants than any orgy which may or may not result in a pregnancy
    True. I think it's a mix of everything you mentioned.

    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    She also saw Emma commit mass murder, so i don't think it changed a lot. Don't mind sharing Scott with Emma is a fanfic development not one believable by comics canon
    Adult Jean will be smart enough to contextualize IvX and understand that Emma saved mutants and she did so in the name of her beloved soulmate and they will go for a romantic walk

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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    She also saw Emma commit mass murder, so i don't think it changed a lot. Don't mind sharing Scott with Emma is a fanfic development not one believable by comics canon

    It was. Their very last interaction was a positive one. Teen Jean was one of the only individuals that was empathetic towards Emma following IvX as she understood her grief. She didnt hate Emma at all in spite of anything she had done

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    How come people aren’t thinking there’s multiple Jeans? There could be one in X-Force, one in the QC, one getting gnawed by Selene, and barefoot and pregnant in the Summwr House

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veitha View Post
    Adult Jean will be smart enough to contextualize IvX and understand that Emma saved mutants and she did so in the name of her beloved soulmate and they will go for a romantic walk
    nah, she commited mass murder because she was evil. nothing justified that, mutants were already safe as Medusa implodeed the toxic cloud

    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post

    It was. Their very last interaction was a positive one. Teen Jean was one of the only individuals that was empathetic towards Emma following IvX as she understood her grief. She didnt hate Emma at all in spite of anything she had done
    That still a big jump from thinking she would be ok with her and Scott. But this is one page, they weren't friends or close.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tycon View Post
    Every mutant involved has committed some sort of mass murder. Next question.
    Nah not a good justificative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRaymond View Post
    How come people aren’t thinking there’s multiple Jeans? There could be one in X-Force, one in the QC, one getting gnawed by Selene, and barefoot and pregnant in the Summwr House
    Well I did pose a theory that the Jean in HoX never died and is out there somewhere....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veitha View Post
    The law doesn't say "do orgies", it just says let's make the mutants population grow.
    Thats vague, but don't they like have a lot of active mutants right now on the island and worldwide or are a lot still depowered which is why they need the Crucible thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRaymond View Post
    How come people aren’t thinking there’s multiple Jeans? There could be one in X-Force, one in the QC, one getting gnawed by Selene, and barefoot and pregnant in the Summwr House
    I thought about Maddie being one of the fake Jeans. But I really don't believe it

    Quote Originally Posted by taiedy View Post
    Thats vague, but don't they like have a lot of active mutants right now on the island and worldwide or are a lot still depowered which is why they need the Crucible thing?
    Crucible is that mutants won't kill theirselves in mass to get ressurrect with powers, so they go to the ritual few at the time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    Well I did pose a theory that the Jean in HoX never died and is out there somewhere....
    Watch that Jean become the new Dark Phoenix, and then we’ve come full circle

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRaymond View Post
    How come people aren’t thinking there’s multiple Jeans? There could be one in X-Force, one in the QC, one getting gnawed by Selene, and barefoot and pregnant in the Summwr House
    That would explain a lot and bring a lot of questions. Plus isn't there a Jean being resurrected in an egg after the events in Wolverine #2. I mean does X-Force chronologically follow after X-Men where she is fighting against the Brood or before, but then who is in the egg??

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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post



    Crucible is that mutants won't kill theirselves in mass to get ressurrect with powers, so they go to the ritual few at the time
    ok cool. thanks for explaining that

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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    That still a big jump from thinking she would be ok with her and Scott. But this is one page, they weren't friends or close.


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    Well that definitely is not true







    They did close and were considered friends. Again you can ignore this but this is stuff that was written. Teen Jean's positive view on Emma was not a one time thing

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