Jean Grey: Phoenix/Marvel Girl Appreciation 2020

[franckd]

if he was losing that everymonth sales would end up much lower than that, under 100k. It's normal have fluctuations.

Under 100K ? That's actually what happened with his Reloaded run. He started with 112K and ended it with 79K...

2020 76k is pretty awful for a run that everyone claims is the best since morrison, some years ago Anyder was selling 100k per month on Batman

Good that you're using the Batman comparison. in 2001, while Morrison's New x-Men was selling 144K, Batman was selling 43k... Yet, I don't see you praise how much Morrison sales were good.

As I said, with you, everything is about conveniency...

[Vishop]

montly comic by god hickman only sold 76k on 9th issue

I thought you mentioned Feb. But really what are you trying to prove.

[spirit2011]

Under 100K ? That's actually what happened with his Reloaded run. He started with 112K and ended it with 79K...

I was talking revolution, not reloaded
the way things are going for Hickman he will end up lower than 50k, good thing he is always planning giant crossovers.
Realoaded didn't had the benefit of a giant relaunch with new status quo

I thought you mentioned Feb. But really what are you trying to prove.

hickman sales are crap

[superjosh]

hickman sales are crap

He's actually outselling all other Marvel titles for 2020, including issue 9. Only a handful of other Marvel titles beat any of his issues and most of those were first issues so they got frontloaded sales. You need to stop with the inaccuracy.

[spirit2011]

He's actually outselling all other Marvel titles for 2020, including issue 9. Only a handful of other Marvel titles beat any of his issues and most of those were first issues so they got frontloaded sales. You need to stop with the inaccuracy.

That just mean that Marvel has a sales problem.

[franckd]

I was talking revolution, not reloaded
the way things are going for Hickman he will end up lower than 50k, good thing he is always planning giant crossovers.
Realoaded didn't had the benefit of a giant relaunch with new status quo

And? Revolution was losing 2.000 copies a month within his last 5 issues. 10,000 copies in 5 months.
Reloaded didn't have the benefit of giant relaunch. Yet it started strong with 112K, and ended like crap with 79K.

[Vishop]

hickman sales are crap

Compared to how X-Men are being destroyed over the past decade. Surre

[Askani's Flame]

God I go offline for two days and look what happens in this thread lol.

In the end, we will have to wait and see what Jean's current deal with Scoot is in the Hickman phase. As an adult and empowered woman, she owes no satisfaction to her daughter.
For me, she should be single and with another uniform

1) Rachel doesn't care. No one should. Nathan REALLY doesn't care.
2) I can barely count on Kurt's hand the number of times Jean has given consideration or satisfaction to Rachel's feelings. Why would that change now?

lol, I think Rachel would just be happy if Jean talked to her more than occasionally and went to coffee with her! I don't think she will have hang-ups about who Jean is sleeping with at any given time!

I know I would be thrilled if Jean went to coffee with me!!!

QTF

As for this ever "spiraling the drain" conversation on Jean and Logan, spirit is entitled to her fantasy world where Jean is real and so on. Can we change topic to where we think Jean goes next based on her "leaving" X-Force and where else she would be useful?

[superjosh]

That just mean that Marvel has a sales problem.

Classic you response. Deflection and no basis. Empty and nonsensical.

[spirit2011]

Compared to how X-Men are being destroyed over the past decade. Surre

All New X-Men 9 $3.99 Marvel 81,695

when Bendis was destroying x-men sales were better

[Vishop]

All New X-Men 9 $3.99 Marvel 81,695

when Bendis was destroying x-men sales were better

That was the time Marvel pushed comics with Marvel Now event.

[spirit2011]

That was the time Marvel pushed comics with Marvel Now event.

excuses, it happened just right adter the new 52 when sales were still high for DC books. Now sales aren't good for DC and Marvel pushed the hell out of x-men relaunch and Hickman books.

[v_jeovanne]

The worse that recently there was episodes of Logan harassing other women. He didn't really learn his lesson.

Marvel universe has hundreds of male characters availiable, for some reason for jean there is only Scott and Logan.

Well, it was that they changed the approach for years so that Jean is the one who takes the initiative in that way, it stops being harassment or creepy and becomes attraction, consent or empowerment. As some have called it.

in fact there is a film critic who talks about how the media allowed this behavior by changing certain words or actions in the characters. It is very similar to the comments I have read in these hours.

[Vishop]

excuses, it happened just right adter the new 52 when sales were still high for DC books. Now sales aren't good for DC and Marvel pushed the hell out of x-men relaunch and Hickman books.

Eh, New 52 started 2 years before that. If I ignore 9th issue everything compared to what Hickman did is far far better than Bendis. Bendis is only hyped because he was writing several comics and events like AOU.

[franckd]

I can't imagine how low CC's sales would be in 2020... But I guess we'll never know as he will surely never be in a flagship again, as Marvel is a business and is looking for the best selling possible. And CC is not a name that sales like 20 years ago. I know that CC has his loyal followers. Maybe he would sell around 30/35,000 copies at best. Well, when we see that Blue and Gold were selling around 30,000 copies by the end of their run, I'm not holding my breath.

Anyway, that is my last take about numbers. It's an appreciation thread. Lets go back to Jean and her new "boyfriend", "Boytoy", whatever...